Plume veil RDA?

[vincy2699]

Jan 9, 2015 14:58:53 GMT Ripshod said:

But what you seemed to be asking is for a quick route to high watts and clouds.

There is no quick route. You have to find your own way gradually.

We're all about safety here and can offer advice as you build your way to your target.

As said before. You have to crawl before you can walk, before you can run. You only joined this forum a short while ago (how I missed that I don't know) and seem to be jumping in at the deep end.

By the by, I get masses of cloud and flavour from a dual coiled fogger running just 15watts (1.04ohms). It's surprising how far you can get just by increasing the VG in your juice.

It ain't just about buying kit and building low, it's a learning curve.

About that 'crawl before you walk' yes I get that. I mean I seriously do, no hard feelings if I sounded like a jerk. And about being new in this forum yes, I am and that's why I'm asking stuff.. im defintely not jumping the gun. to be honest I haven't even got the atty. Calm down, nobody is hurting anyone.. I mean being new is all about learning, i'm pretty sure I would be asking people on reddit if it wasn't for this thread. I know the learning curve is vital for safety reasons. many thanks for the concern and advise!

[vincy2699]

Jan 9, 2015 19:40:07 GMT blakey said:

For the plume veil I use .3 kanthal. 8 wraps around a 2mm former gives me 1.4-1.5ohms
I build the coil horizontally and I bring it right up to about 1.5mm from the air hole and directly in front of it, I prefer a single coil in this attie.
When i build an attie I build it for flavour over vapour, clouds don't interest me at all.

For dual coils I build the same horizontal coils but I do 2 x 10 wraps around a 3mm former and I set the coils closer to the center post and they come in at .8-.9 ohms.
Dual coils like this only really come alive at about 18w and upwards. Far too intense a vape for my pallet though.

Make sure whatever battery you use is up to high amp draws if you're going for very low sub ohming, for example - a .2ohm build with a fresh battery putting out 4.2v will also be pushing out 21amps. Only high end high drain batteries can handle a constant discharge at that kind of power. for builds like this you need to make sure that the battery can handle a good 5 amps above what you require it to provide to ensure safety and not over working the battery. I don't want to sound condescending but please do your research before you jump in mate and think safety above all else

Thanks!! finally found somone that has personal experience on this atty! I've read about the airflow on this atty is really flexible and can be adjusted to suit different needs. Do you close of the top airflow holes and leave the ones on the deck wide open for flavour? I personally would also prefer great tasting vape. I'm aiming for higher ohm builds to avoid the battery danger. seems like this is the best advise because your single coil build would be most likely what i'll be running my atty at. A. 3 kanthal would be a 28g, correct me if im wrong, so if I were to use 24g the build will come out lower ohms right. I will be needing more wraps then possibly 10 or more around a 2mm. I'll stick to (about 7wraps around a 2.4mm bit) I will be aiming for above 0.5 to avoid any possible risks. maybe I should have got a 26 or 28g. Many thanks!

[blakey]

Jan 9, 2015 20:03:42 GMT vincy2699 said:

Jan 9, 2015 19:40:07 GMT blakey said:

For the plume veil I use .3 kanthal. 8 wraps around a 2mm former gives me 1.4-1.5ohms
I build the coil horizontally and I bring it right up to about 1.5mm from the air hole and directly in front of it, I prefer a single coil in this attie.
When i build an attie I build it for flavour over vapour, clouds don't interest me at all.

For dual coils I build the same horizontal coils but I do 2 x 10 wraps around a 3mm former and I set the coils closer to the center post and they come in at .8-.9 ohms.
Dual coils like this only really come alive at about 18w and upwards. Far too intense a vape for my pallet though.

Make sure whatever battery you use is up to high amp draws if you're going for very low sub ohming, for example - a .2ohm build with a fresh battery putting out 4.2v will also be pushing out 21amps. Only high end high drain batteries can handle a constant discharge at that kind of power. for builds like this you need to make sure that the battery can handle a good 5 amps above what you require it to provide to ensure safety and not over working the battery. I don't want to sound condescending but please do your research before you jump in mate and think safety above all else

Thanks!! finally found somone that has personal experience on this atty! I've read about the airflow on this atty is really flexible and can be adjusted to suit different needs. Do you close of the top airflow holes and leave the ones on the deck wide open for flavour? I personally would also prefer great tasting vape. I'm aiming for higher ohm builds to avoid the battery danger. seems like this is the best advise because your single coil build would be most likely what i'll be running my atty at. Many thanks!

For a single coil build I close off the lower side and top air flow and just use the main slots mid way up the tank
The extra two airflow options really come into their own at low sub ohm builds that fill the chamber with vapour very quickly. Then the air will cyclone within the chamber and produce the clouds that the chasers require

It's a very versatile attie with regards to airflow, you can pretty much adjust to infinity. The best way really to experience this attie is to experiment and find what works best for you.
Start with a a sensible build and then play with the airflow vs power and see what you prefer. No matter what anyone says you will NOT resist the urge to try a .2ohm dual coil build with all the air hole options wide open to try the clouds- just please make sure your battery can take it and that you check and double check the coils are sound before you do.

[vincy2699]

Jan 9, 2015 20:18:34 GMT blakey said:

Jan 9, 2015 20:03:42 GMT vincy2699 said:

Thanks!! finally found somone that has personal experience on this atty! I've read about the airflow on this atty is really flexible and can be adjusted to suit different needs. Do you close of the top airflow holes and leave the ones on the deck wide open for flavour? I personally would also prefer great tasting vape. I'm aiming for higher ohm builds to avoid the battery danger. seems like this is the best advise because your single coil build would be most likely what i'll be running my atty at. Many thanks!

For a single coil build I close off the lower side and top air flow and just use the main slots mid way up the tank
The extra two airflow options really come into their own at low sub ohm builds that fill the chamber with vapour very quickly. Then the air will cyclone within the chamber and produce the clouds that the chasers require

It's a very versatile attie with regards to airflow, you can pretty much adjust to infinity. The best way really to experience this attie is to experiment and find what works best for you.
Start with a a sensible build and then play with the airflow vs power and see what you prefer. No matter what anyone says you will NOT resist the urge to try a .2ohm dual coil build with all the air hole options wide open to try the clouds- just please make sure your battery can take it and that you check and double check the coils are sound before you do.

For now, one thing at the time. I'm excited for this... seriously am. I'll be building coil with someone watching over though. Safety still comes first. I'll see how to single coil turns up. In fact, if I run into problems I'll look for you guys. check the coils are sound, you mean by building the suitable resistance and making sure the coil glowing 'inside out' if that makes any sense? or am I suppose to be hearing things? haha

[blakey]

Jan 9, 2015 20:26:33 GMT vincy2699 said:

Jan 9, 2015 20:18:34 GMT blakey said:

For a single coil build I close off the lower side and top air flow and just use the main slots mid way up the tank
The extra two airflow options really come into their own at low sub ohm builds that fill the chamber with vapour very quickly. Then the air will cyclone within the chamber and produce the clouds that the chasers require

It's a very versatile attie with regards to airflow, you can pretty much adjust to infinity. The best way really to experience this attie is to experiment and find what works best for you.
Start with a a sensible build and then play with the airflow vs power and see what you prefer. No matter what anyone says you will NOT resist the urge to try a .2ohm dual coil build with all the air hole options wide open to try the clouds- just please make sure your battery can take it and that you check and double check the coils are sound before you do.

For now, one thing at the time. I'm excited for this... seriously am. I'll be building coil with someone watching over though. Safety still comes first. I'll see how to single coil turns up. In fact, if I run into problems I'll look for you guys. check the coils are sound, you mean by the coil glowing 'inside out' if that makes any sense? or am I suppose to be hearing things? haha

No mate, by sound I mean that they are well secured in the posts and that they are clear from the tank and the posts so that there is minimal chance of shorting out against the attie.
.2ohms is pretty close to a hard short as it is so everything needs to be right but really that should apply to any coil build. Just more so when you're pushing limits
Micro coils need to glow from the inside out but if you use a spaced coil then it will glow evenly and instantly. Again, experiment and see which coil type performs best for you with whatever wicking material you're using.

[chykensa]

vincy2699 - so glad you've done your research, understand the safety aspects and that you will have someone watching the first few builds. And please don't worry about ^^^ in the thread, we all just want to make sure that you take it easy, and don't damage yourself
As for being a newbie, we all were once, and are delighted to be able to pass on our collective experience to someone who has the bottle to ask us wrinklies about the best ways to do this thing. Please continue to ask questions - that's how you learn, and how we crystallise our knowledge in order to pass it on to the next generation
This has now inspired me to dig out my PV and have a play before I go to bed, so thanks for that!

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I was just looking at rip trippers video on the plume veil, I noticed on his coil he had one leg longer than the other so the coil would centre in the dripper.
I always thought I should have coil legs with equal length, is it ok to build that way?

[davetherayon]

Rip's reputation is tarnished, as he tends to review every item he's sent free as Sick as Tits (tm). I recall him being over the top about the super-duper wire he was sent that turned out, thanks to reddit, to be regular (but expertly branded) wire. It's fallen off the radar now, after they were shown to be marketing men. He's very fun to watch, but you have to take him with a pinch of salt. For unbiased reports, I prefer Todd.

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Jan 24, 2015 14:31:36 GMT davetherayon said:

Rip's reputation is tarnished, as he tends to review every item he's sent free as Sick as Tits (tm). I recall him being over the top about the super-duper wire he was sent that turned out, thanks to reddit, to be regular (but expertly branded) wire. It's fallen off the radar now, after they were shown to be marketing men. He's very fun to watch, but you have to take him with a pinch of salt. For unbiased reports, I prefer Todd.

Oh I'm no fan of his videos never have been although his juice is outstanding imo I just wanted to see a few different builds to see if I could improve my own 
Todd is like marmite though I think he's ok 
I do find the leg length on the coil interesting 

[thatguy]

Jan 7, 2015 11:56:39 GMT Ripshod said:

So long as you treat that efest 30Amp battery as a 20 amp you can't go too far wrong - giving a minumum theoretical build of 0.21ohms.

My personal feeling is to advise not to go below 0.3ohms for safety, if you decide to keep it vincy2699

Jan 7, 2015 11:05:42 GMT VapingBad said:

The 2500 mAh 35 A are supposedly LG18650HE2 20 A

All the evidence provided by torchy seems to confirm this, even though he still seems to be advertising them as 35 Amp.

Tip of the week: Never buy a battery with 'fire' in the name.

The NCR18650BD are rated at 10Amps, while the BE variant is rated at just 3.6Amps.

Cant beat a plume veil RDA.  Love em.  Easy to build on and great airflow options. 


As for the 3100mAH purple EFests, I can confirm they seem fine at 0.3A  Been using them at progressivly lower resistances and at 0.3 ohms, I have experienced the usual heating of the atty and top of mod, but no noticeable heat build-up in the battery itself.

I'd say they are fine for 0.5 ohms for most people. 0.3 for experienced vapers .  All batteries have a risk, and in general it's best to treat max current draw as about 2/3 of that stated by the manufacturer.  I only feel confident going to 80% with a few manufacturers such as sony, sanyo and samsung.

[decoy]

the best build i have used for both flavor and vaper is clapton coils



it might take you a while to get to the point you can build them 

but for now i would stick with 1 micro coil at around 2ohms for the first few trys you will be amazed at what that atty can do
the prob is to get the most out of a coil it has to be wicked just right and this is something that is learnt throw trial and error 
once you have got the hang of wicking and building one coil move on to 2 coils also its easier to fix any problems when you only have one coil (two 2ohm coils will make the atty 1ohm and 4  2 ohm coils will make it .5 ohm)
once you can do the 2 coils and tbh with all the different wire out there there is not much need for more except to show off but parallel coils are good if you dont have thicker wire

it you start off with to low a ohmage it can be bad not just because of the big bang theory but because it cuts your journey short which is a bad thing as you will miss out on what the atty can do

also there is a different technique to using sub ohm cloud chasing builds  so you still have lips left

i use 24 mg for rta,s and zero for sub ohm cloud chasing some times i risk a 6mg  but mostly i stick to my home made juice of vg and a few drops of concentrate

i hope that helps

[vincy2699]

Hey guys, I know some of you are curious to what i'm up to.. whether I've blown my fingers off or creating a bomb. I'm proud to say I've received all my equips and the plumeveil rda for about a week now. Here are some pictures of the build I did. Twisted 24g running 0.24ohms which is about 17.5amps? I also bought a legit VTC4 from vapeclub and they run just fine.
First Impressions: Holy mother of THROAT HIT. Damn, these suckers know how to hit me like a train. Full flavour on and enormous vapour production. I must say, this has got to be the most mind blowing thing I've ever experienced. I just ordered a Hobo V2.1 and a casing so this will be my daily set up for now. Lastly, I'd like to thank you all for this wonderful journey about RDAs, batteries, coils and so on. I'm very grateful for all of your replies and wishes. Vape on!

[blakey]

I told you that you wouldn't resist the .2 build

Glad its all working fine for you. Good choice of battery

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vincy2699

" most mind blowing thing I've ever experience" what vaping, you want live a bit more.... only pulling your leg...


you come in clock sure, took a bit of jip but then took advice,researched and went for it, good for you mate.....

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Jan 25, 2015 7:34:01 GMT decoy said:

the best build i have used for both flavor and vaper is clapton coils



it might take you a while to get to the point you can build them 

but for now i would stick with 1 micro coil at around 2ohms for the first few trys you will be amazed at what that atty can do
the prob is to get the most out of a coil it has to be wicked just right and this is something that is learnt throw trial and error 
once you have got the hang of wicking and building one coil move on to 2 coils also its easier to fix any problems when you only have one coil (two 2ohm coils will make the atty 1ohm and 4  2 ohm coils will make it .5 ohm)
once you can do the 2 coils and tbh with all the different wire out there there is not much need for more except to show off but parallel coils are good if you dont have thicker wire

it you start off with to low a ohmage it can be bad not just because of the big bang theory but because it cuts your journey short which is a bad thing as you will miss out on what the atty can do

also there is a different technique to using sub ohm cloud chasing builds  so you still have lips left

i use 24 mg for rta,s and zero for sub ohm cloud chasing some times i risk a 6mg  but mostly i stick to my home made juice of vg and a few drops of concentrate

i hope that helps

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