will using cartos\DCs use more battery than attys?

[gizmondothefirst]

Hi again

My issues with cartos continues and yesterday found that using SR cartos and DCs (1.5 ohm x 2) my 510 1100mah battery (1 week old) lasted about 4 hours. When replaced with another fresh battery it lasted about the same amount of time!?!

Using the attys and carts that came with my starter kit the battery would be well into the latter half of the second day before dying - both batteries demonstrated this.

Yesterday i did spend a lot of time trying to find that sweet spot with my cartos (and failing) so did vape more than i normally would've, but not by 2 or 3 times more, so the only conclusion i can come up with is either my batteries are starting to fail (unlikely based on their age and the fact they both displayed the same problem at the same time) or the cartos are draining the battery massively.

I am finding that i have to press the burn button for about 5 seconds to get any kind of decent vape from the cartos instead of about 3 or 4 seconds on the atty. For the amount i vaped yesterday i reckon the batteries should have lasted easily more than the day.

Whats the general consensus?

Ps. Sorry to be a pain in the ass

[womble]

When I changed my vaping technique to much longer draws, then of course the battery life dropped.
Maybe this?

[blakey]

The short answer is yes, low resistance atties or carto's will drain the power much quicker than standard resistance. It works like this, in order to get the best from a standard resistance cart or attie you need to put about 5v through it, most batteries push out about 3.7v as their optimal voltage, ranging from 4.2v from a freshly charged battery to about 3.4v for a battery in dire need of a re-charge. The low resistance atties/carto's try to mimick that 5v experience at a lower voltage but in doing this they consume a great deal of power at a very fast rate.
If your standard resistance stuff was working fine for you at 3.7v then you should stay with it and your battery life will increase but if you prefer the hit from an LR coil then you will have to suffer the reduced battery life

[hifistud]

In all likelihood, the atties that came with your starter kit will have been around 2.3 Ohms - that's pretty much standard resistance for eGo and 510 kits. So, you would have been drawing a maximum of 6 watts of power at 3.7 ohms. However, your 1.5 Ohm devices will allow much more current to pass - you'd have been drawing closer to 9 watts, effectively reducing your run-time per charge by a third or even slightly more. That you find your draw length has increased by a couple of seconds will also contribute to the drain. If it's of any consolation, that four hours doesn't look too bad with a low resistance cartomiser on an 1100mAH eGo-type battery - it's roughly in the ballpark for what I would expect at my own level of usage.

And you aren't being a pain in the ass!! I'm pretty sure that this kind of question crops up in a lot of folks' minds as they try different bits of kit, and I think you'll find that the denizens of this forum will always be only to happy to help out.

[womble]

Feb 2, 2012 14:14:49 GMT hifistud said:

And you aren't being a pain in the ass!! I'm pretty sure that this kind of question crops up in a lot of folks' minds as they try different bits of kit, and I think you'll find that the denizens of this forum will always be only to happy to help out.

Absolutely.

One of the best things about this forum, is that there are no stupid questions. Vaping is a minefield when you start and things seem to be changing on a daily basis almost atm.

[gizmondothefirst]

Thanks guys!

Feb 2, 2012 14:13:49 GMT blakey said:

If your standard resistance stuff was working fine for you at 3.7v then you should stay with it and your battery life will increase but if you prefer the hit from an LR coil then you will have to suffer the reduced battery life

That's just the point - the cartos are standard resistance and the dual cores are low resistance, yet they both require a long draw >5 seconds, and even then i don't always get a good hit.

The 2 attys and carts that came with the kit give a good hit every time, until they need topping up that is. But each good hit is from a 1 to 2 second draw. (Been testing all afternoon). These `tests` have been done using the same juice so the only variable here seems to be the cartos and attys? Except use:

My use hasn't changed much since getting the cartos, but because of this increase in draw length i have about ten cartos `in use` and 2 DCs all with different flavours to see if its the juice thats affecting the draws?
All my juices are the same nic content, vg heavy and it seems the darker liquid suffers the worst, whilst the lighter (almost clear) liquids fair better, albeit very slightly, but still worse than the attys.

Is there a way of testing the battery voltage without dismantling? I have a multimeter.

[gizmondothefirst]

Actually - am i right in thinking that if looking down at the filler and i see a thin black cable running from the centre of the air pipe and down the side of the filler this denotes a dual coil? My boge cartos have this cable but it wasn't mentioned in the description when i bought them, yet my other non branded cartos don't have this?
Or is it a quality standard of boge?

[flimflam]

Feb 3, 2012 1:01:35 GMT gizmondothefirst said:

Actually - am i right in thinking that if looking down at the filler and i see a thin black cable running from the centre of the air pipe and down the side of the filler this denotes a dual coil? My boge cartos have this cable but it wasn't mentioned in the description when i bought them, yet my other non branded cartos don't have this?
Or is it a quality standard of boge?

Hi Gizmo,

Nah, all Boge's are like that. The coil in a Boge is vertically positioned at the base of the central air tube, so a short wire runs from one terminal up to the bottom of the coil, and the wire you can see is the one that runs from the top of the coil up over the tube and back down to the other terminal. For your unbranded ones, it's poss that they're bottom coil cartos, in which case the coils are positioned horizontally across the base of the air tube. So the wires attached to the terminals are much shorter and don't have to travel all the way up and over so to speak. Kanger cartos are of this type. Hope that makes some kind of sense

John

P.S. Just noticed your question re testing yer batt voltage. There's an excellent little 'how to' here:
www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/Meter

[stanton]

hi gizmon,
if your still struggling with the cartos and not spending much money at the mo (it's expensive in the beginning when you'r learning what to buy) why not get some ce2's and a drip tip? they're cheap and cheerful and you can have them as back up to the cartos/testing juice.
(in fact you get a rubber drip tip with ce2s)
(i haven't got in stock, i'm not fishing for business here)