VIP Flavourings . . .

[Perpetua]

I've amazed myself with this mixing business Jsis, as making toast is a faff squared operation for me.

But, get one flavour how you want it and the confidence boost can lead to all sorts of creativity!

[maccafan]

Feb 22, 2012 14:05:22 GMT jsis said:

Ok fella..

Nooo.. Don't need nic juice. Already have 440ml 36mg on its way.

I'm a flavour only guy after that buy. I have about 20ml max left of the last stuff n new stuff should be here before that runs out.

Using them charts I posted.. Combined would have been $11.5.. Saving us or you $3. Most of that would have been ate in uk shipping plus there'd be an extra couple of days wait. I'm like the next guy.. Prefer it on my doorstep yesterday.

I am not looking to make money out of someone else's shipping costs jsis. If the weight of your purchase is lower, then shipping costs would be pro rata and not split down the middle. Like I explained, I was under the impression that you wanted the 120 ml nic. as well.

Feb 22, 2012 19:53:29 GMT jsis said:

I got away with it dispatched this afternoon.

Guess the lesson is 105ml max before it affects the shipping. Bonus. £1.42 per 10ml.. Now to look forward to trying them out.

Yumm

Useful to know..Pleased that you got it shipped for a fiver.

Feb 23, 2012 13:54:53 GMT jsis said:

Mis-calculated. I have 43 different types of flavour, with another 7 coming. I have extra's of the ones i like most

And you sleep with them?

Only kidding man. I hope you will share your expert knowledge with us beginnners from time to time..

[jsis]

Lmao mac

If I can help, I'll certainly try my best.

Was the only place known with enough room that wudnt look like I had a marching band of flavours touring the house.

I know your weren't trying to make money, but neither of us would have really saved either. Add uk post with extra time/envelope n it's pretty much the same. Maybe next time yet it may not be till next year now. However my wondering eyes cud come across something new I just simply struggle to resist lol

[maccafan]

No worries mate...Do you know if these juices and e-nic can be safely stored in glass?

[Gordy]

glass is the best for storage

[maccafan]

Eggsellent thanks..

I'll get some Nando's marinade bottles all washed out and ready with an oil pourer top..

[gizmondothefirst]

I think my taste buds are the weakest link during all my taste tests right now?!
All my pre-mixed juices taste very weak.
I think you're right Perps about all these flavours I've got going on - they're not doing my taste buds much good I imagine?!
I'm trying to run before I can walk and need to sloooooow down! I am ignoring most of what I've made for now - they can go to the back of the cupboard and steep whilst I concentrate on the tobacco and menthol flavours., which I've just made 5ml's of each. I may include coffee, and although the 1ml I made of it tastes amazing after leaving it for a few days, it's a strong flavour and overpowers anything else I drip into the atty afterwards!

Just thought I would mention - the 'TPA' Tobacco flavour from LF initially tastes of quite sweet and moist Turkish Delight. Quite sickly and not at all tobacco like, but not unpleasant...however - after 3 days there is only a hint of rose and the tobacco flavour really comes in. I find that quite amazing and is great to witness that change first hand of the affects steeping can have.

I'm now behaving and waiting for Sunday to see what they're like.

If you want glass bottles, take a look on ebay - someone was just selling a job lot of about 30+ of 10ml and 30ml and I think it went for less than a tenner!

[maccafan]

Thanks Giz..I ve got several little empty coffee granules jars and nando's marinade and peri-peri sauce bottles all sitting in my recycling bin which are about to be recycled by me..

I wonder if they'll make a Peri-peri juice...mmmmmmm

[gizmondothefirst]

Feb 25, 2012 7:59:34 GMT maccafan said:

I wonder if they'll make a Peri-peri juice...mmmmmmm

Hahaha - I thought the exact same thing when i read your reply!
I imagine that there won't be any peri-peri smell/flavour after a good boiling of a glass bottle...shame really as I bet peri-peri would be interesting if vaped?!?

[gizmondothefirst]

My mixing update so far...

...After power-vaping (testing) the tobacco and menthol mixes to such an extent I think I actually OD'd on nicotine, and reading the sticky on these forums about what strength I should be vaping (2ml at 12mg a day) after my smoking habit (20-25 a day 0.7mg) I decided to reduce my mixes by half again so the resultant juice is 12mg. Surprisingly (to me) I found the throat hit hadn't reduced much at all. In fact I'm very happy about this as it means I can get even more juice out of my vip purchase: 120ml PG at 48mg added to 360ml of VG = 480ml's. I also think 50% PG was making me feel quite lethargic, and my throat is very dry when vaping and my voice has been croaky since mixing my own. A win-win me thinks?!!!

Anyway - The tobacco I made up (1 of vip 555 and 1 of TPA 'Tobacco') was only 1ml, and because of all my testing there wasn't an awful lot left, so I've made a bigger batch (5ml) which should be ready early next week. I'm actually vaping/testing the 555 now and it isn't at all too bad! Its a lot smoother after a few days, and a little sweeter now its 75% VG (actually its 55% VG, 10% Vodka and 10% flavour). I may need to add more flavour as the intensity has weakened over a couple of days?

The coffee mix has been added to the bavarian cream mix, and the result is quite a sweet , moreish creamy vape with a hint of coffee. More coffee flavour is needed, but again, after a couple of days the coffee taste mellowed nicely.

The menthol mixes I made up (Menthol, lemon menthol and cherry menthol) are a bit strange? I'm finding it difficult knowing if there is too much menthol or too little in the mix? It doesn't have the same 'menthol' taste as the pre-mixes I have previously bought?

Thats it for now. I'm trying to concentrate on a couple of flavours

(Dulch-de-leche still smells like sour milk though!)

[Perpetua]

Feb 26, 2012 15:48:43 GMT gizmondothefirst said:

Thats it for now. I'm trying to concentrate on a couple of flavours

That sounds like a plan Giz, I think you'll have more success as well, just concentrating on a few flavours at a time.

I'd maybe have a go at just making a plain menthol base, getting that to suit your tastes and then think about adding extra flavours to it.

Dulce de Leche, I never use it by itself . . . normally in with other flavours, it's particularly nice mixed with Raspberry.

But pleased to hear it's going better for you now.

[jsis]

Menthol is a tough one, I had a coconut menthol going on at some point which was quite nice, but had to move onto a new flavour for I found the menth a lil tiresome.

That's just what I read somewhere perpetua, some1 made a bad batch of flavours and creme de lulched em. Reackons it was all they could taste afterwards which was preferred.

[jsis]

480ml should be a gud 8months to year supply giz. If the luche tastes like sour milk as well as smelling like it, I'd stick it in the bin. I had a cream flavour which behaved the same, literally a couple of drops flavour and it was foul. I made up 10mls.. Binned it, the flavour, and two cartomizers. Yukkkk!!! It was disgusting stuff.

[gizmondothefirst]

The new batch of tobacco is taking longer than the last batch to mellow...? Perhaps larger quantities need longer even though the percentages are roughly the same?
Not to worry - I got the pre-mixed juice I ordered through the GB and am trying out the HC RY4. Its a lot drier but sweeter than others I've tried - tastes similar to the Marlboro I like sooo much....now just to try and make some?!!!

The menthol is definitely proving to be a git! If I add more flavour it is too strong, but if I dilute it to anything less than 10% its too weak...but at 10% it doesn't taste right??? Really baffled!

D-d-L may well be heading for the bin.....although I will give it a chance for now! And I certainly hope 480ml will last at least that long jsis...I have about 60ml+ of pre-mixed too, and of course there will always be more GB's...maybe one to ViP?

[gizmondothefirst]

I can now confirm that 555 is pretty damn good!
At either 15% or 20% (haven't got my book to hand) it tastes gorgeous! It is pretty sweet (I am using 65% VG) and tastes more caramel than tobacco. Its a strong, thick taste (Full?) very creamy and leaves a taste in your mouth as if you'd eaten a toffee about 30 mins ago - like a toffee echo!
I've mixed it at 12mg, and considering I have been used to 24mg - 36mg pre-mixed, this packs a punch and the TH is similar to those higher nic liquids. The TH is smooth too and not dry or harsh.

I like it!

Also - my coffee and bavarian cream tastes really good too. (I've just had to mix more as the meagre amount I initially made went far too quickly). It was originally mixed as above (25% PG, 65% VG, 10% Flavour) at 12mg, but the coffee wasn't strong enough, so in the new batch I've added an extra 10 drops to see what that does?

This is fun!