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Post by drunkenbum on Mar 2, 2015 23:24:54 GMT
Been looking at the kanger kbox but I'm slightly put off by the wattage adjustment and the fact you can't see your resistance. Whilst looking at other reasonably priced boxes I stumbled across the sigelei mini. Am I likely to miss the extra 10 watts of the kbox? Will predominantly use a subtank mini on it and sometimes a dripper. I know 30 watts is plenty for the subtank but will it be enough to blow some decent clouds from the dropper from time to time?
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Post by Toondog on Mar 3, 2015 0:14:27 GMT
30 watts should be plenty, the sig mini has the same board as the IPV mini and I have no problems with subtanks and drippers. Plenty of cloudage here!
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Post by -V- on Mar 3, 2015 0:31:31 GMT
Yes the Sigelei Mini is a solid device with the Yi Hi chip in it, all you ever need on the display, usb charging, silicone protection sleeve, it's a little 'tall' to be called a 'mini' but it's ok
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Post by Get Off My Cloud on Mar 3, 2015 0:40:04 GMT
Depends on personal tastes and definitions of what a decent cloud is really. Me i'm happy around the 45-50w range with a build around 0.5ohm when dripping other people like to go way lower on resistance and a lot higher with wattage others are happy with higher resistance and lower wattage. I wouldn't stick any build on a 30w box below 0.5ohm though, yes the spec sheet says it will handle 0.3ohm but i don't like to push even regulated devices at their limits. Sigelei seem to build really solid devices though i really like my 50w v2 and i've heard no complaints about the Mini. Wouldn't be surprised if we hear Kanger were bringing out a new box in a couple of weeks.
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Post by drunkenbum on Mar 3, 2015 6:46:14 GMT
I've just read that you can switch the sigelei to dc-dc which apparently is basically a mech mode. Is this true do we know? I'm sure kanger will bring a new one out but I've gone off the idea of the full sized subtank and on to the mini. Don't fancy the look of the mini with a lip all the way round it. Bit vain I know but I like things to look reasonably flush (don't even like the look of an evod on my mvp)
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Post by demondog13 on Mar 3, 2015 9:26:19 GMT
drunkenbum, the Sigelei mini does have DC-DC mode, the destructions ask you to depress the fire and down buttons simultaneously to access this function, although it is not possible to adjust the voltage in DC-DCD mode. I have tried this function a couple of times, can't say I notice any real difference, although I have only had it a couple of days, still on a learning curve with all this malarkey. Hope this helps in some small way.
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Post by drunkenbum on Mar 3, 2015 11:02:47 GMT
drunkenbum, the Sigelei mini does have DC-DC mode, the destructions ask you to depress the fire and down buttons simultaneously to access this function, although it is not possible to adjust the voltage in DC-DCD mode. I have tried this function a couple of times, can't say I notice any real difference, although I have only had it a couple of days, still on a learning curve with all this malarkey. Hope this helps in some small way. From what I can make out it basically operates like a mech mod and allows you to run lower resistance than the chip allows. Could be a good way to get into mechanical mods before buying one. How do you find the sigelei in general demondog13 ?
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Post by demondog13 on Mar 3, 2015 11:25:07 GMT
drunkenbum, this is my first foray into VV/VW from the istick, so have nothing to really gauge it against, I have the subtank mini on at the moment, using the 1.5 ohm coil running at 15 watts, great flavour and vapour. I kinda like the form factor, replaceable battery, using Sony VTC4s, checked on putting in at 4.2 volts, when mini showed low battery, the symbol was virtually drained and tested at 3.2 volts. The front edges are rounded although the edges where the battery cover fits are more square giving a harder edge when holding, although the gel cover eliminates that and is a good fit. The battery cover is a real strong point, easy to remove and the magnets do a good job of keeping the cover in place, the top plate edges are bevelled with a very minimal overhang with the subtank, with the gel cover fitted this is eliminated. Would I buy another? Yes, well pleased with it, since I nearly purchased a Cloupor mini!!!
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Post by drunkenbum on Mar 3, 2015 12:25:22 GMT
drunkenbum, this is my first foray into VV/VW from the istick, so have nothing to really gauge it against, I have the subtank mini on at the moment, using the 1.5 ohm coil running at 15 watts, great flavour and vapour. I kinda like the form factor, replaceable battery, using Sony VTC4s, checked on putting in at 4.2 volts, when mini showed low battery, the symbol was virtually drained and tested at 3.2 volts. The front edges are rounded although the edges where the battery cover fits are more square giving a harder edge when holding, although the gel cover eliminates that and is a good fit. The battery cover is a real strong point, easy to remove and the magnets do a good job of keeping the cover in place, the top plate edges are bevelled with a very minimal overhang with the subtank, with the gel cover fitted this is eliminated. Would I buy another? Yes, well pleased with it, since I nearly purchased a Cloupor mini!!! I did look at the Cloupor mini but not too keen after reading all the stories about them. The Kbox just seems to be a bit cheapo and I was only really gonna go for it because of wanting the full size subtank. Now I've gone off the full size subtank it's opened up the options substantially. The sigelei looks like a good option for the money as I cant afford the higher powered options at the moment.
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Post by Get Off My Cloud on Mar 3, 2015 13:53:26 GMT
drunkenbum, the Sigelei mini does have DC-DC mode, the destructions ask you to depress the fire and down buttons simultaneously to access this function, although it is not possible to adjust the voltage in DC-DCD mode. I have tried this function a couple of times, can't say I notice any real difference, although I have only had it a couple of days, still on a learning curve with all this malarkey. Hope this helps in some small way. From what I can make out it basically operates like a mech mod and allows you to run lower resistance than the chip allows. Could be a good way to get into mechanical mods before buying one. How do you find the sigelei in general demondog13 ? DC/DC mode is not mech mode it's taking a DC input from the battery into the chip regulating it and and outputting it again as a flat DC current. PWM is pulse width modulation, the output isn't a flat DC signal. In either mode the chip is regulating the power. The Sigelei doesn't have a mech mode, if it did then all the chip would do is read and display what the battery is delivering to the coil when you fire it, it wouldn't regulate the power at all.
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Post by drunkenbum on Mar 3, 2015 14:45:04 GMT
From what I can make out it basically operates like a mech mod and allows you to run lower resistance than the chip allows. Could be a good way to get into mechanical mods before buying one. How do you find the sigelei in general demondog13 ? DC/DC mode is not mech mode it's taking a DC input from the battery into the chip regulating it and and outputting it again as a flat DC current. PWM is pulse width modulation, the output isn't a flat DC signal. In either mode the chip is regulating the power. The Sigelei doesn't have a mech mode, if it did then all the chip would do is read and display what the battery is delivering to the coil when you fire it, it wouldn't regulate the power at all. Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't 100% sure as only a couple of places mentioned it working like a mech. I think I'm gonna go for it and if I like it I'll buy one of the higher powered versions further down the line. Or maybe brush up on my ohms law etc and have a bash with a mech for some cloud chasing
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Post by Toondog on Mar 3, 2015 16:19:16 GMT
The difference you'll notice in DC-DC is no rattle snaking at high power on low ohm builds. I have the IPV mini same as the sig just in a different body and run it exclusively in DC-DC
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Post by drunkenbum on Mar 3, 2015 16:42:15 GMT
The difference you'll notice in DC-DC is no rattle snaking at high power on low ohm builds. I have the IPV mini same as the sig just in a different body and run it exclusively in DC-DC Chris Is there much difference in flavour or vapour?
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Post by shez on Mar 3, 2015 18:27:37 GMT
I've had the Sigelei 30w mini for a couple of weeks now and like it but thread is not good and battery doesn't last all day when only using this mod.
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Post by drunkenbum on Mar 3, 2015 18:59:03 GMT
I've had the Sigelei 30w mini for a couple of weeks now and like it but thread is not good and battery doesn't last all day when only using this mod. I'm surprised the thread is bad. I thought being a sigelei it would be decent. The reviews I've watched never highlighted any problems with the thread. Could be inconsistent though
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