18650 Batteries...

[blakey]

Feb 28, 2012 10:32:46 GMT ragjoy said:

i agree i will be sticking too AWs but places ive read seem to say IMRs (orange) rather than the PCBs (black) but the IMRs dont seem to have higher MAh.
one other thing i noticed yesterday was that this charger www.ledfiretorches.co.uk/ultrafire-wf139-charger-c-w-r123-spacers.html which i have recommends PCB batteries or does it mean recommended for PCB batteries.

raggy........

It means that pcb battery's are recommended for use with that charger raggy.
I've been using this little charger for a while now and it's doing a great job www.mojurepublic.com/products/Trustfire-TR003-3.7V-4-Channel-Multi-Charger.html But I do get through a few batteries in the course of the day, especially when I'm using 18350s
Daz at safercigs does the 2000mah orange(safe chemistry) AW-IMRs mate, using them myself and they are great so far
What are you using the batteries in?

[ragjoy]

Feb 28, 2012 13:14:28 GMT blakey said:

Feb 28, 2012 10:32:46 GMT ragjoy said:

i agree i will be sticking too AWs but places ive read seem to say IMRs (orange) rather than the PCBs (black) but the IMRs dont seem to have higher MAh.
one other thing i noticed yesterday was that this charger www.ledfiretorches.co.uk/ultrafire-wf139-charger-c-w-r123-spacers.html which i have recommends PCB batteries or does it mean recommended for PCB batteries.

raggy........

It means that pcb battery's are recommended for use with that charger raggy.
I've been using this little charger for a while now and it's doing a great job www.mojurepublic.com/products/Trustfire-TR003-3.7V-4-Channel-Multi-Charger.html But I do get through a few batteries in the course of the day, especially when I'm using 18350s
Daz at safercigs does the 2000mah orange(safe chemistry) AW-IMRs mate, using them myself and they are great so far
What are you using the batteries in?

thanks for the charger info.
at the minute im using 3 of the black AWs 1760s 1600 MAh on a ggtb.
in a week or so my touchwood 18650 will be here so i want to get 2 decent batteries.
i was going to get either the 2200MAh @ £12, 2600MAh @ £14, 2900MAh @ £16 and 3100MAh @ £18, i wasnt sure if its worth paying the extra for the higher MAh, but when i read around the forums most people buy the IMRS but they seem to be 1600MAh @£10.45 against the black PCB 2200 MAH @ £12.
i suppose i could get 3 IMRs rather than 2 PCB and then get free postage from ledfiretorches.
what do you think!!.

edit the free post wont work with 3 x IMRs as the code knocks it below £30

raggy............

[blakey]

IMRs are what's needed when using variable voltage devices raggy, protecting circuits will impede a high drain unit, AWs use a safe chemistry in their battery's to prevent the very thing that the protection circuits guard against, battery damage and explosions. Some protected battery's won't suffer the use of LR atties or cartos before the protection kicks in but the IMRs will take whatever is thrown at them. Do you need IMRs with their lower mah? or would a protected battery suit your needs better with a higher mah? If you don't intend to use the battery for very high drain items then an IMR may not be needed.
personally, whatever battery I'm using will be removed and charged as soon as it requires it and I have many replacements to take its place whilst its charging so the lower mah is of no problem to me.
And because my battery's will be used in vv mods as well as standard mods then IMRs is all I will buy now, and they don't come better than the AWs, imo

[ragjoy]

Feb 28, 2012 15:01:22 GMT blakey said:

IMRs are what's needed when using variable voltage devices raggy, protecting circuits will impede a high drain unit, AWs use a safe chemistry in their battery's to prevent the very thing that the protection circuits guard against, battery damage and explosions. Some protected battery's won't suffer the use of LR atties or cartos before the protection kicks in but the IMRs will take whatever is thrown at them. Do you need IMRs with their lower mah? or would a protected battery suit your needs better with a higher mah? If you don't intend to use the battery for very high drain items then an IMR may not be needed.
personally, whatever battery I'm using will be removed and charged as soon as it requires it and I have many replacements to take its place whilst its charging so the lower mah is of no problem to me.
And because my battery's will be used in vv mods as well as standard mods then IMRs is all I will buy now, and they don't come better than the AWs, imo

thanks blakey,
i will be using for the foreseeable future LR boges on the touchwood
so really im better longevity (hours) wise to get lets say 2 black PCB AWs 2200 MAh or a higher MAh as i wont be using ie a lavatube or provari.
but they will be fine with LR cartos.
is that about right?.

raggy............

[blakey]

Feb 28, 2012 15:42:13 GMT ragjoy said:

Feb 28, 2012 15:01:22 GMT blakey said:

IMRs are what's needed when using variable voltage devices raggy, protecting circuits will impede a high drain unit, AWs use a safe chemistry in their battery's to prevent the very thing that the protection circuits guard against, battery damage and explosions. Some protected battery's won't suffer the use of LR atties or cartos before the protection kicks in but the IMRs will take whatever is thrown at them. Do you need IMRs with their lower mah? or would a protected battery suit your needs better with a higher mah? If you don't intend to use the battery for very high drain items then an IMR may not be needed.
personally, whatever battery I'm using will be removed and charged as soon as it requires it and I have many replacements to take its place whilst its charging so the lower mah is of no problem to me.
And because my battery's will be used in vv mods as well as standard mods then IMRs is all I will buy now, and they don't come better than the AWs, imo

thanks blakey,
i will be using for the foreseeable future LR boges on the touchwood
so really im better longevity (hours) wise to get lets say 2 black PCB AWs 2200 MAh or a higher MAh as i wont be using ie a lavatube or provari.
but they will be fine with LR cartos.
is that about right?.

raggy............

Sorry for the delay in replying, got roped in to going out for a bit
Yes mate, I have a black AW pcb that I used to put in the don and I ran dual coils on it with no issues if that helps but I did find that it was a tad longer than the orange 2000mah by say 1.5-2mm and the orange 2000mah is about 1mm longer that the standard 1600mah. so all in all that's an extra 3mm

[ragjoy]

thanks blakey,
ive checked with ian at touchwood and he says the black AWs are fine for length.
thanks for explaining it all, i hadnt clue VVs used different batteries.

raggy.......

[ragjoy]

well in the end i went for 2 x AW PCB 18650s (black) 2200MAh, i get 24hrs or 7pm to 7pm from my 17670s using LR boges so if i get the same from these im happy and protected which is as bigger concern for me as anything
thanks for the info everyone.

raggy.........

[Perpetua]

Have you got your lovely Touchwood then Raggy?

[ragjoy]

no perpy, another 2 weeks maybe less hope it is worth the wait.


raggy.

[Deleted]

Feb 7, 2012 3:00:19 GMT Gordy said:

I have the AW IRM 1600mah as well as there panasonics and have to say i am very happy with them. they out last the AW's by 30% easily... oh and they are exactly 65mm so fit perfectly

Thanks for the recommendation Gordy , I had previously been looking at this guys stuff prior to seeing your post , and then the penny dropped that he is Torchy the battery boy lol

needless to say I have just made a purchase

[Gordy]

Mar 2, 2012 17:23:34 GMT @storm said:

Feb 7, 2012 3:00:19 GMT Gordy said:

I have the AW IRM 1600mah as well as there panasonics and have to say i am very happy with them. they out last the AW's by 30% easily... oh and they are exactly 65mm so fit perfectly

Thanks for the recommendation Gordy , I had previously been looking at this guys stuff prior to seeing your post , and then the penny dropped that he is Torchy the battery boy lol

needless to say I have just made a purchase

one thing i think i should say is the Panasonic dont have built in protection so best to use in devices that do. not recommended for mechanical mods

[Deleted]

they are for the LT so should be ok

[Gordy]

thats ok then Storm ...just thought i'd better say after the recent events