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Post by phatfil on May 10, 2015 0:48:23 GMT
while browsing the vaping online shops i keep comming across SS mesh sold for wicking, but i have yet to see any reference to using it.
When and why is it used? what are the benefits or disadvantages of using it??
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 0:52:59 GMT
That's a good question. I'm lurking and learning
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Post by VapingBad on May 10, 2015 0:56:07 GMT
I prefer to use stainless steel rope for the centre of the wick, search for genesis builds. For some flavours like tobaccos it has the best flavour, but kills custards and others, it can wick like a beast and the wick last for soooooooooooo much longer with regular cleaning. YMMV Review of the original atty in my pic ff to 11:30 & 14:40 to hear about the flavour ETA it has a mesh wrapper, 2 layers of 500 grade 25 micron mesh.
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Post by thatguy on May 10, 2015 0:56:10 GMT
It's used for wicking in genesis tanks like the kraken. Cross posted with vapingbad.
Yeah, a genesis with a ss mesh/rope wick is awesome in a genny. Add in 4x twisted coils or 2x around kanthal ribbon and it's a fire and forget solution for most of a year. Just dry burn between filling every now and again and you'll be good for a minimum of 6 months, a year with a good build. Takes a bit of learning to get it right but once you do genny tanks are perhaps the most faff free you could pray for.
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Post by VapingBad on May 10, 2015 1:01:20 GMT
It's used for wicking in genesis tanks like the kraken. Cross posted with vapingbad. Yeah, a genesis with a ss mesh/rope wick is awesome in a genny. Add in 4x twisted coils or 2x around kanthal ribbon and it's a fire and forget solution for most of a year. Just dry burn between filling every now and again and you'll be good for a minimum of 6 months, a year with a good build. Takes a bit of learning to get it right but once you do genny tanks are perhaps the most faff free you could pray for. word
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Post by thatguy on May 10, 2015 1:03:29 GMT
and people wonder why I tell them gennys are the easiest to maintain tanks. Get it right once and your done for a year.No moe kayfail weekly faff-fests.
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Post by VapingBad on May 10, 2015 1:15:41 GMT
and people wonder why I tell them gennys are the easiest to maintain tanks. Get it right once and your done for a year.No moe kayfail weekly faff-fests. Weekly, you were lucky, with my tobacco liquid I get 1 4 ml tank with cotton type wicks normally before having to change the wick, it's quite a bit better with temp limiting, but still to much faff for an ADV. And did I mention flavour. For cleaning I mostly blast with a VAX hand held steam cleaner, but the origenny clone plastic tanks go milky so started putting in the ultrasonic, this is not necessary unless you have a wick clogging juice but if you have it is so quick and easy especially it you have more than 1 build on the go.
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Post by thatguy on May 10, 2015 1:19:32 GMT
Was only weekly because I got sick of the fail airflow after a few draws and shelved it again. Hate to feel like I'm sucking an elephant through a straw when I vape.
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Post by VapingBad on May 10, 2015 1:31:19 GMT
I was talking Orchid for cotton, so if that was ADV I would have to rewick 3 times every two days, but a decent vape for walking the dog or DIY. But now with the leak free Origenny and DNA40 I can use steel tanks and get lazy and mostly vape it dry, you have a few warning puff where the flavour & vapour drops but no nasties.
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Post by thatguy on May 10, 2015 1:36:50 GMT
strangely enough I have a solution for genny leaks when at work- my shirt pocket. Keeps the tank vertical enough to never leak and is big enough to take a nemmy in 650 mode, just need to be careful when bending down. So for me genny leaks are basically a non issue. Even found a little pocket thingy in the wifes handbag to keep it upright.
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Post by VapingBad on May 10, 2015 1:41:16 GMT
I just vaped it dry while typing, gotta love the DNA40 For those of you who have never used a stainless steel wick they have the nastiest dry hit, unless you set your cotton on fire but you would have stopped long before.
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Post by VapingBad on May 10, 2015 1:48:01 GMT
strangely enough I have a solution for genny leaks when at work- my shirt pocket. Keeps the tank vertical enough to never leak and is big enough to take a nemmy in 650 mode, just need to be careful when bending down. So for me genny leaks are basically a non issue. Even found a little pocket thingy in the wifes handbag to keep it upright. I drilled the wick holes out to 3.3 mm (was 2.95-3) so get a good seal with 3 mm rope and mesh and ther is no open fill hole because the very thin deck improves wicking no end and no air inlet needed as you can see for me sucking them dry. Most gennies have a very thick deck which doesn't help wicking, the Origen is about 2 mm, sorry the vernier is upstairs and can't be exact. That is what perked my interest after about a year of loving the Kraken.
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Post by monty on May 10, 2015 10:38:24 GMT
Mesh can be used in a Typhun GT and a Squape but it is mainly for gennys. The low faff is because you can vape around 500ml before changing the wick. The maintenance is to remove the wick and dry burn the coil, this can be daily on a high gunking baccy juice but as little as once a month on DIY menthol.
The downside of a genny is that there are things that can go wrong and identifying just what is causing a problem can make learning an ordeal.
The majority of gennys have a fairly tight draw and a small chamber, they are built for flavour not clouds. They get through less juice than clearos (even Evods and CE5s) and give a warm vape. I have never taken notice of puff counters but I bet mine would be very high and a genny is ideal for me because I can constantly toot away and still only go through 3 or 4ml a day. There are a few gennys made for higher Watts but if that's what you like then you are better catered for by cotton rebuildables.
There are advocates of solid wicks, straw wicks, SS rope & mesh. lots of coils and few coils. twisted and plain Kanthal and my conclusion is that they must all work well. My recommendation is for 250 grade mesh and 0.25 or 0.32mm Kanthal but be prepared for a lot of different advice on how to set up a genny.
The taste is widely considered to be cleaner and crisper on mesh. There is a break in time on a new wick, I really hate the taste until it has had 15ml through it and find it needs 30 ml to reach perfection. Some people hardly notice this break in time - it must be them who are free with the advice on how to avoid he break in time because I've tried lots of things without success.
Most genny users leave the filler cap off so they need to be upright or they will leak. On the other hand if they are upright then they will absolutely never leak.
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Post by yourgurnard on May 10, 2015 21:24:31 GMT
I've been using mesh pretty much exclusively for a coupla months or so..'cept for knockabout kanger heads when at work....oh, & the Magma (tho' that's pretty much second fiddle to the 'meshed' Orchid V2 now....) My Kraken has S/S Rope, topped with mesh, as yes, it wicks better, but as My baccies coat the coil so quickly, I find it much quicker to whip out a mesh wick, dry burn, stick the wick back in, burn off the old juice & vape again...the rope/mesh wick tends to have to come out with the coil & held with pliers over the gas hob, which ain't so convenient!! Mesh wick & ribbon coil has brought my Taifun GT back to life! Poor ol' Orchid has n't been used for ages!
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