Got a bit of a problem

[X&Y]

Have to admit

I'm a bit disappointed that none of the mods (except perpetua early on) and they have been on here.

Have given a view on this thread

I'm guessing they would have a great knowledge of all vaping things including the occasional odd things that may happen.

Seems like some people want to stay away from anything negative to do with vaping

That's not fair

I only found out earlier that it could be a VG problem by googling it and finding some answers on an Australian vaping site.

Surely a problem thread with a possible good outcome is just as informative as a "struggling thread"

[alvoram]

not for me to defend anyone ammer, but maybe they have nothing to add, Maybe they would only be thinking what has already been said, in fairness des and bel are both very experienced, and they've said no different. Or maybe they're in bed, not everyone is nocturnal like us Maybe they are just tied down elsewhere on this reasonably busy forum. Maybe they're just drunk, enjoying their Saturday nights, and only online to chat away in the lighter threads, like the bar one. I understand where you're coming from though, that you really want some advice from the most experienced vapers here, hopefully they'll pick up on that in time, and give you their 2 pence worth.

[Jemima]

I can honeslty say I've never seen any of the mods shy away from a problem thread, usually they are the ones jumping in there tryin to help. It may just be that they have no experiance of the situation and didn't want to provide conflicting information

However I don't think liek that so now I've finally sat down for the evening I shall begin ....

If it was me, I think I'd try to narrow it down to see if its a specific juice or vg thats the problem. Maybe tomoro if your feeling well and fine, try the offending juice and see if you start to feel iffy, and try another one that you feel fine with straight after to see if you start to feel better again. If you do feel better pritty quickly try a different but vg heavy juice (if you have one) to see if that has the same effect.

VG or PG intolerance and allergys arent unheard of, but they don't seem to be very common. I'm in no way sayin that your not one of the unlucky few. Often coming off ciggys can uncover other intolerances that the ciggys masked for years. Hence why you never showed signs of a problem before.

I know it sounds a bit random but check your and your wifes personal products labels and you will see VG listed in quite a few. Another thing to try would maybe be to use the product constantly on the back of your hand for a few hours, keep it slapped on thick if its a moisturiser kinda thing and see if any itching or redness occurs. Of course it may well be that you are only intolerant when its vaporised and I would not reccomend inhaling moisturiser lol.

I think the testing with the juices is the way to go though. That or a trip to the Doc's to see if they will do an allergy test (some doc's won't do them these days unless you pay or it's a serious allergy)

I would be leaning towards the thought that it's a specfic juice rather than the vg as the symptons would of shown up earlier, but I am NOT a doctor so theres a very good chance I could be incredibly wrong lol

*please don't sue me if you die due to moisturiser overdose *

[alvoram]

Feb 26, 2012 0:50:51 GMT Jemima said:

I would not reccomend inhaling moisturiser lol.

*please don't sue me if you die due to moisturiser overdose *

Oh dear... Too late



That all sounds like excellent advice to me, I was wondering if he had picked up any of the bargain glycerine from boots, could try an isolation test with that, I have some, and I'll be happy to post you a sample if you're not sorted by monday ammer, or you can pick it up in boots, or LLoyds pharmacy for 89p - £1.49

[X&Y]

Fair comment

Alvo i liked the lighter threads

Was enjoying a good vape when there was a bit of banter about

Still enjoying a good vape now! shows the vape has won

There was a few questions on intolerances on a few other sites that i found earlier.

So annoying when people don't update.

I took the positive that they didn't come back to mean. All sorted now

Think i'm quite good at updating good, bad or indifferent, hopefully may help someone later down the line.

Jemm noted as well

I won't be suing you for moisturiser overdose trust me

[alvoram]

Feb 26, 2012 1:06:05 GMT X&Y said:

Alvo i liked the lighter threads

Was enjoying a good vape when there was a bit of banter about

I thought it was best not to mention the football today mate

Forest won >

[X&Y]

Forest won makes a change and two goals blimey

I sat through a borefest earlier with the Hammers and Palace (on the box)

Point gained or two thrown away not sure

Yipee my thread

Can talk about anything

Intolerance thing cheesing me off but even the evaluation thing has taught me i don't like the cigs anymore

So that's good

[Jemima]

Well that's a huge positive bout the ciggys Whuf, just gotta get the rest sorted now lol

[bluemagnum]

A few months after i started vaping, i tried some PEG400. Made me feel like i had a real bad dose of the flu. Headache, blocked nose and sinuses and thirsty all the time. As soon as i went back to my normal 80/20 pg/vg mix, i was right as rain. I bet it's something similar with you whufc, keep at it mate.

[X&Y]

Thanks Jem

Just had to go outside to get something from the garage

Normally would have got it and then got back inside and had a fag

But because indoors smells so nice, I lit up a fag to try and it was F***** horrible

Got what i wanted and come back in and will have a drag on the lovely/unsure of mix RY4 for now

Looking forward, perhaps to a FV RY4 all PG mix

[kirsty0108]

Firstly glad your back ,
Secondly I've been writing long spiels about my allergies for a bout half an hour and keep deleting as its not relevant to your case ( well it is but it takes me a while sometimes to get to the point which you might miss due to my long boring explanations) and whilst I've been doing that Jem and Alvo have posted , and I agree with alvo , and Jem don't think the mods are avoiding this thread there has been a lot said so they may have nothing else to add and what is the point in saying well there's a lot of factors here a lot of members have said a lot of things anyone of them could be right but we have nothing to add ?

Fourthly

if you go on other forums you will probably see a million and one adverse effects of stopping smoking , a lot of the symptoms you've described are mentioned .I'm cutting down, partly to try and avoid these symptoms which will also means I can't blame stopping smoking on suddenly getting blisters on my back (this hasn't happened to me just what I read here and on ecf).
Chances are if you make major changes to your body your going have side effects I lost a lot of weight a few years ago through exercising like a demon and I had several migraines and was puking like a demon. have I put the weight back on , no did three months of pain result in 2 years of better health YES!

Lastly from what you described it really doesn't sound like an allergy ( to my uneducated mind) just an adjustment to not smoking. Could even be that as vaping simulates smoking its triggering your body to think but where is the rest of my drugs I want the tar and all that black sh** as well , which could be why vaping makes you feel worse .

Would still reccomend that you speak with your doc

[X&Y]

Thanks Kirsty

secret be known

I've always had you down as my give up buddy

Even though i jumped straight in and you were slowing down

Maybe your approach is better

Still at the mo it's vaping 95% and smoking 5 %

So no bad thing

Kirsty

[alvoram]

**Off topic alert**

When you're top of the league, I think you've always got to see a draw as 2 points lost, unless you come from behind by 2 or more goals That's the way I look at it. But that's simplified really, I guess it depends how well the other team played.

As far as jumping straight in, or slowly slowly, I don't think there is a right or wrong, a better or worse, as such, it seems that it's different for different people, and it's a case of whatever suits you best.

For me, the thing that made it easier I think, was routines, I stuck to them, as somebody said on this board once before, I didn't quit, I just changed brands. Everything else remains the same, all the little routines, the morning smoke, the after food smoke, going outside for one at times, and in places, where I would normally go outside, all of these things helped to trick my brain and body into thinking I was still smoking I think, except I was vaping instead.

[alvoram]

Another thing that helps me a lot aswell, if you're interested, is that I made a spreadsheet, that automatically calculates what I've saved on analogues, I also list all ecig supplies and equipment that I buy, and their prices, it then works out what my overall savings are after costs, and I look at it often, I find it encouraging.

Edit: probably why I'm such a tight git when it comes to buying supplies, saving money has become addictive, and is another replacement for my smoking addiction, lmao.

[Gordy]

sorry i havent posted on this thread whufc its nothing to do with it being as you say a negative thread its just to be honest i dont like to give medical advice unless im sure of the facts.

what i would say is that your experiences doesn't sound like its caused from not smoking or at least i haven't any experience of it being related to cessation of smoking.

if i were you i'd make an appointment with your doc and explain your situation and they can do allergy tests. only problem is this could take a while if you want a test quicker you can do a yellow pages search and find places that do allergy tests for a charge.

what i would do is write a diary of what you are vaping and how you are feeling... this way we can make connections and patterns and try to whittle down what the cause is