AAE-C Battery Power Guide - Discussion Thread

[VapingBad]

Nov 13, 2015 19:46:26 GMT gm111 said:

Think we should be adding LG HB6 too the list??
1500mah 30amp, also been tested at 35amp only going too 80*c..
What you think VapingBad ?

They are new to me, but Ripshod created and owns the list and did a better job than I would have. 

[gm111]

Nov 13, 2015 21:17:01 GMT VapingBad said:

Nov 13, 2015 19:46:26 GMT gm111 said:

Think we should be adding LG HB6 too the list??
1500mah 30amp, also been tested at 35amp only going too 80*c..
What you think VapingBad ?

They are new to me, but Ripshod created and owns the list and did a better job than I would have. 

And me untill today and hb2 I think they are (2000mah 25amp) although I havn't seen tests on them. I know he pops on here now and again so maybe he could update for us.

[VapingBad]

I was up near him a few weeks ago and was tempted to pay a surprise visit, I only realised when I saw the sign post leaving Pontefract to come home, but it would have been out of order with no warning, never having meet before and only having his address as I posted him some spare fibre optic once (Don't worry Ripshod I didn't put your address on my phone, but I don't delete PM so could have dug it out)

[Ripshod]

The HB6 was considered originally. But there was a problem with the internal resistance. In a nutshell, when a fresh HB6 was given a 30Amp load the terminal voltage would drop to 3.4Volts within seconds.

The IR in this case put it in the same realm as the HE2/4, making it totally unsuitable for regulated mods when fully loaded @30amps.

The HB6, imho, should be considered a 20Amp cell, certainly no more than 25Amps (safely). At 20Amps there are a lot of better choices.

Good job you didn't call by VapingBad, I've been on a contract in Tamworth since February

[VapingBad]

Next time I'll bring my balaclava and blank and white stripy jumper Ripshod


Yea those HG2 are the ideal battery for last years VW mods, a bench test that comes to the same conclusions as you Ripshod link.

gm111
Tests on HB6 & HB2

[gm111]

Nov 15, 2015 13:39:23 GMT Ripshod said:

The HB2 was considered originally. But there was a problem with the internal resistance. In a nutshell, when a fresh HB2 was given a 30Amp load the terminal voltage would drop to 3.4Volts within seconds.

The IR in this case put it in the same realm as the HE2/4, making it totally unsuitable for regulated mods when fully loaded @30amps.

The HB2, imho, should be considered a 20Amp cell, certainly no more than 25Amps (safely). At 20Amps there are a lot of better choices.

Good job you didn't call by VapingBad, I've been on a contract in Tamworth since February

It was the hb6 I wanted too add Ripshod , I hadn't seen the test on hb2s but had for the hb6

[Ripshod]

Nov 15, 2015 14:32:51 GMT gm111 said:

It was the hb6 I wanted too add Ripshod , I hadn't seen the test on hb2s but had for the hb6

Don't know why I was writing HB2 when I was looking at the HB6 specs & tests  

Consider it a typo - errors corrected

[Taylor]

May 23, 2015 10:00:20 GMT Ripshod said:

I want to compile a list of batteries with their power ratings, and lowest ohms (mech) as a quick reference guide for members so no maths is involved.

I'd like to include as many batteries as possible, but due to the variable nature of rewraps I don't think they can be included.

This is open for all members to suggest batteries bearing ^^^ in mind.

I want to include the better batteries from Torchy and Ecolux (they're not all suitable for vaping)

I'd like VapingBad to be involved too, invaluable experience and eloquence

18650:
Sony VTC4 and VTC3 (VTC5 has no reliable sources)
LG HE2 and HE4
Samsung 20R and 25R
AW IMR18650 2200 mAh |
AW IMR18650 2000 mAh | SHEESH, TRY GETTING TEST RESULTS FROM MR WANG IS LIKE ASKING FOR HIS CC DETAILS!!!!!!
AW IMR18650 1600mAh  |
Nitecore NI18650A
eFest 35 and 20Amp Can't include either. 35 is a 20Amp rewrap (LG), the 20 is a rewrapped 6.36 amp Panasonic NCR18650BE (ICR, bloody dangerous).
JacVapour 18650 2500mAh Rewrapped Keeppower, which in turn is a rewrapped Samsung 25R
EFEST PURPLE 2100MAH 38A
KEEPPOWER 18650 2500mAh 20/35A Rewrapped LG
Torchy 2500mAh 30A
IMREN 2500mAh 40A
IMREN 2600mAh 38A
Solotech 2100MAH 30A
Panasonic CGR18650CH

18500:
AW IMR18490 1200mAh
AW IMR18490 1100mAh
Efest IMR18500 1000mAh
Efest IMR18500 1100mAh v2

18350:
AW IMR18350 800 mAh
AW IMR18350 700 mAh
Efest IMR18350 700mah (Purple)
Efest IMR18350 800mAh (Button)
Efest IMR18350 800mAh (flat Top)
JacVapour 18350 750mAh Rewrapped Keeppower
KEEPPOWER 750mah 8/15A

26650:
EFEST PURPLE 3500mAh 64A
EFFEST GREEN 4200mAh 50A
IMREN 3600mAh 60A
IMREN 4200mAh 60A
MXJO 3500mAh 35A
MNKE 3500MAH 20/60A
MNKE 4000mAh 20/60A
Vappower 4200 mAh 40/60A

Price means nowt. It's not a review, just a list.

Over to you.

I know, some rewraps are in the list. I'll weed them out and replace with the original cell if I can trace it

Found this old thread .
As I'm looking for the best 26650. Come across this
Looking at the efest purple at 50amp and the green is 64amp can Someone explain what the amps mean. Would that depend on what mod you have.?

[VapingBad]

Taylor Amps are like the speed electricity is drawn/used, it is the unit that current (flow) is measured in, it is what makes thing get hot and if you try and take power from your battery too fast (higher amps that it can handle) bad things happen. Battery cells have to current ratings: continuous and pulse, only use the continuous to stay safe. Unfortunately EFest started a trend that many have followed by printing the pulse current on their batteries and now many other battery re-wrappers have followed. There are a couple of guides linked in my sig that have more detail including the one this thread is discussing and IIRC there are a couple of others in the Guides section that may help you understand.

[DiscoDes]

Apparently at the moment DECENT 26650's are rares than Rocking Horse Poo

[VapingBad]

Ripshod this illustrates what we've been saying well 36:00 - 45:00

[Ripshod]

I don't usually watch his reviews, but yeah, Phil kinda covers it well there. Very interesting that the Sony performs really well in comparison.

I believe the 26650's only advantage at the moment is the extra capacity. They may have been designed originally with just that intention. And again we see over-speccing on the lables.


Shame on the 26650s!

[Perpetua]

I've come across this picture battery gents in the know, it's been updated apparently . . . . would it be any use on the Guide?

[VapingBad]

He is always updating his stuff and is a great resource.

[VapingBad]

Apparently a newer 18650 one, credit to Mooch@ECF