Squonkers

[minime]

Does anyone know any vendors in the uk that sell parts to make a squonker mod.

cheers mark.

[VapingBad]

Modmaker.co.uk

[vern]

I wish I knew...modmaker.co.uk do boxes and switches and you can get a 510 fatdaddy v4 with bf adapter there, but my success with it has been mixed at best, without using a daft long stainless steel pin.
Bottles and tubing are not to be found together with caps that seal....I've looked and come up short.

I've asked some china contacts to help me out and are awaiting their response.

[phtumshk]

Mod makers will have most bits to make a diy mod squonk or otherwise.
Whatcha got planned minime ?

[minime]

At the moment I'm just looking at a making a basic wooden squonker but finding it hard to find close up pictures as to see what's what, like how the tube fits to the atty and what's a catch cup that sort of thing.

I'm a engineer by trade and have access to lathes and woodworking machinery to.

I'm the type that has to know what does what why it does it and how it does it then I try to think how to improve it ( I'm a bit slow at doing things tho ) lol.

[vern]

I've got 5 minutes...

ok, the juice feeds as follows: the tube goes all the way to the bottom of the bottle. Putting pressure on the bottle (squeezing) increases the pressure on the bottle and the contents (air and eliquid) try to find a way out..which is normally "up the tube"
For this to work, everything needs to be air tight.

the tube then connects to the bottom of the 510. No, there's no standard sizes used..or even standard 510's...But if you look at any 510 connector you find online, imagine a piece of about 2cm extending from the bottom of it, connected to the positive of the 510, and hollow, all the way to where they atty screws on

so the pipe connects to this bit, and enables the liquid to move through the custom 510 to the...catchcup. A bit of "not needed anymore", a throwback from the cartomizer days, the catchup is like the area, like a volcano, just a section to hold back any excess liquid. Was needed for cartomizers, not so much needed anymore.

Now, the atty..the 510 pin will be drilled/hollow such that the liquid can move up into the atty, to the deck. Ideally, the lowest point of the deck. The juice entry point is similar to your plughole in the bath. At the lowest point it can allow juice to enter and flow to the wicks, and because it is also the lowest point, the juice can flow back down it. Leaks can occur where the atty screws to the mod, and even on a good squonker, fi you remove the atty it'll be "wet" there, BUT, the liquid tends ot follow the path of least resistance, so if everything else is ok, the juice will travel into the atty rather than try squeeze itself out of the 510 threads between a mod and an atty

Remember that bottle you squeezed in? and the airtight system? when you let your bottle go, it tries to return back to its original shape, and sucks juice back into the bottle, from the plughole.(juice entry point into atty deck). So the juice you squeeze up, most of it comes back down, EXCEPT the juice that stays behind, trapped on the wicks.

[phatfil]

nail head squarely Hit there vern

only thing i would add is thin o-ring round the neck of the atty's 510 connector can help seal the 510 fitting from leaking juice and guiding it all up into the atty..

[minime]

So would I be right in thinking if a really good seal could be made between the atty and the 510 a catch cup would not be needed ?

[wooky]

Yup, spot on...

[minime]

I see fat daddy do a bottom feeder one but I cannot see what stops juice from seeping up the 510 threads.

[vern]

I dont really understand the question too well:-) but if you mean the threads between the atty 510 and the fatdaddy 510, the answer is "nothing special". The mechanical bond, tolerances etc..the liquid tends to go find elsewhere to get out.
If you were to block the juice entry point in your atty deck, adn then squeeze, I'm sure it would come out from the threads...eventually...but what I do find is that your finger is a really good force gauge. You can tell so much when you squeeze that you soon know when it is *just right*

ok...on youtube fatdaddy himself has a video on using his rda conversion kit, where he has a long flanged stainless needle. It comes as part of the kit with the fatdaddy conversion kits, and this long needle travels from the atty, through the 510 and into the bottle almost. Thats the way he has done it. Its not the way these things are normally done. And my personal experience is that using his connector WITHOUT that stainless needle and you will get leaks, as the thing only seals well when your atty is screwed down solid..so even though the connector is spring loaded, it doesnt seem to seal when the spring isnt at its lowest point (there is an oring the pin pushes against, which makes the seal.)

So me personally, I'm trying to find something else to use.
svapamo.it have a connector called MAV or something, I dont have experience with it, however next squonker I'll be using that
@windows on here may be able to fill in the blanks

[vern]

link to mav 3
www.svapamo.it/store/box_mod/Drip_Cup_MAV3_All_In_One/Drip_Cup_MAV3_All_In_One_Mini_Kit
check the pictures and it should all be clear now that the basics have been written down

[Deleted]

The fat daddy pin comes with an oring. When you screw your atty down it seals between the bottom of your atty 510 and the pin.
A genuine catch cup is a sealed unit which allows any juice thats leaked out of the joint between the atty and the cup to drain back down into the bottle.
Hope that helps.

[minime]

Think iv got it straight in my mind now,thanks every one.

Mmmm now to think how to convert attys lol.

[vern]

Jun 17, 2015 18:56:07 GMT @windows said:

The fat daddy pin comes with an oring. When you screw your atty down it seals between the bottom of your atty 510 and the pin.
A genuine catch cup is a sealed unit which allows any juice thats leaked out of the joint between the atty and the cup to drain back down into the bottle.
Hope that helps.

if it is that itty bitty see-through one or two supplied, both of mine went to broken land when I screwed an atty on the first time. They mushroomed out and moved over the flanged stainless pin and then never to be found again once you take the atty off.
#imaybthick