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Post by kittyvape on Jul 4, 2015 0:50:28 GMT
Wow Just had a scan thru the consultation document... What would help would be if someone well versed in the document and it predecessors could script a set of vape friendly responses to the Questions asked. with a little justification for the responses selected, then us idiots could read decide if we agree and then copy and paste the 'right' answers as feedback. ?? Sorry if someone else responded earlier to this phatfil , its been shown many times that c+p responses of an identical reply are dismissed and counted just as 1 So , and I know very well its a very long detailed document + quite tedious . I suggest you just answer a few ? that apply to you ,which in all reality for most of us is about 5 or 6 If you can also read through the impact assessment and just pick out a few details that you don't think are correct then include them at some point in your answers . From memory (which is piss poor) the very last question allowed you to write about whatever you wished to write about (cue start moaning about they don't know anything whatsoever about vaping) I'm referring to the multi-choice. Even answering yes or no is totally confusing, as I don't know if I'm agreeing with something right or wrong. I'm not stupid, but they've deliberately made this as confusing and time consuming as possible. Not wanting to fill in loads of commentary, just know if I'm hitting the right 'yes' or 'no' in the multichoice. Being new to vaping is part of the problem, and there'd most likely be more responses to this if new vapers who are keen to take part could have a bit of guidance on what's being asked/what they're trying to coerce about etc.
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Post by gibla53 on Jul 4, 2015 1:04:34 GMT
kittyvape If you haven't completed the multi-choice section I can offer some help if you + others wish (as long as I can do a sreencap of the document)
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Post by gibla53 on Jul 4, 2015 1:12:06 GMT
The Questions are all related to the government asking your opinion if its fair to charge, my answers varied between no or don't know/unsure but made a comment at the end in the replies box that if fees are decided to be charged it should be on the ability to pay ,you cannot compare a market trader with a multi-national and expect a similar fee . From information in market research the government have no clue whatsoever what reasonable fees should be charged so NO is probably the best answer throughout
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Post by kittyvape on Jul 4, 2015 1:21:00 GMT
kittyvape If you haven't completed the multi-choice section I can offer some help if you + others wish (as long as I can do a sreencap of the document) Thank you very much gibla53 for offering help. I haven't even answered the first question yet, as I don't know all the details, too much deliberate wordiness, and daren't risk answering wrongly.
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Post by gibla53 on Jul 4, 2015 1:49:27 GMT
The first few Q in the multi-choice all relate to cigarettes so for where it puts the mentions of Articles 4.up to 19 that doesn't apply to US so your answer doesn't really matter . When it gets to A20 (THE 6TH multi-choice ?) deffo say NO
Hope that helps
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Post by kittyvape on Jul 4, 2015 2:16:49 GMT
The first few Q in the multi-choice all relate to cigarettes so for where it puts the mentions of Articles 4.up to 19 that doesn't apply to US so your answer doesn't really matter . When it gets to A20 (THE 6TH multi-choice ?) deffo say NO Hope that helps Thank you very much gibla53 I've submitted it, but can't believe how deliberately wordy and confusing it was. I must have ticked about 3 or 4 answers and made one comment. I made sure to say no to the A20 question. Appreciate your help.
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Post by stmls on Jul 4, 2015 2:38:00 GMT
delivered to a customer last night and she said her neighbour works for imperial tobacco in Southampton and they are doing testing on e-cigarettes developing their own
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Post by gibla53 on Jul 4, 2015 2:51:48 GMT
stmls Apparently the tobacco co have spent over £2 billion over the previous few years on research into different e-cigs and heat not burn products ....staggering amounts really ,but relative chicken-feed for them . Southampton is a big R+D place for Imperial so the story will undoubtedly be correct
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Post by Roscopecotrain on Jul 4, 2015 6:52:46 GMT
DiscoDes i am going to steal some of your words from the first post and get this out over my social networks.
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Post by DiscoDes on Jul 4, 2015 8:23:08 GMT
DiscoDes i am going to steal some of your words from the first post and get this out over my social networks. No worries my friend
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Post by gibla53 on Jul 10, 2015 14:13:15 GMT
bump - the more submissions from folks the better
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Post by Ron on Jul 10, 2015 18:30:41 GMT
Done and answered
Thank you for participating in this consultation.
The Department of Health will only contact you should we seek further information about your response
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