Nickel or Titanium?

[Get Off My Cloud]

VapingBad i'm still lost this sounds like voodoo to me, a lower resistance wire requires more watts to bring up to temperature, run 10w through a piece of 32agw wire and it'll be glowing like a neon sign instantly, run 10w through a piece of 22agw and it won't so how does one apply more watts without draining the battery faster?
I should have paid more attention in science instead of just using the Bunsen burners to do hotknives.

[VapingBad]

Aug 30, 2015 0:56:51 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

VapingBad i'm still lost this sounds like voodoo to me, a lower resistance wire requires more watts to bring up to temperature, run 10w through a piece of 32agw wire and it'll be glowing like a neon sign instantly, run 10w through a piece of 22agw and it won't so how does one apply more watts without draining the battery faster?
I should have paid more attention in science instead of just using the Bunsen burners to do hotknives.

Happens to many vapers, with unregulated mods you would be right, but regulated mods adjust the voltage to only supply the required amps to what ever resistance to get the correct watts.

If you think of electricity as water supply we can make a metaphor that helps, don't try and stretch the metaphor as it gets too complicated.

Volts are like water pressure.
Amps are like flow speed.
Resistance is like a flow restriction EG a tap or thin/fat pipes.
Watts are how many litres you can move per second.


If you want 5 litres a second you could get it many ways:

If you have high pressure (high V) like mains water supply you can get it through a thin pipe (high R), but if you have low pressure (low V) you would need a much bigger pipe (low R) to get your 5 litres a second.

On mech the voltage (pressure) would be determined by the battery, so you control the amps (flow speed) with the resistance of the coil (a tap in the metaphor, but thin/thick pipe would work the same) to get the required power (litres a second).

On a regulated mod the voltage (pressure) is controlled by the chip so the the amps (flow speed) through the coil (pipe) are just right to get the correct amount of power (litres a second).  So if you fit a lower resistance coil (fatter pipe) it would lower the voltage (pressure) to maintain the amps (flow rate) to get the correct power (litres a second), and vice versa.

Sorry I normally write that more clearly, but it is late and I've had more than one drink. 
 

[Get Off My Cloud]

Ok i getcha i think but i still don't see how you don't use more energy.
To take your water pipe analogy if you have a thinner pipe you have to increase the pressure in order to move the same volume of water through it than on a thicker pipe.
Pressure is energy input, energy comes at a cost, i don't see any getting around it.

[sydsut]

Back to the original OPs question. At first with TI I was less than "whelmed" by the performance but found TI wire by far the easiest to coil and wick as it is stiffer than NI wire. After a lot of experimentation with settings on my X CUBE II I find at last that I'm getting a slightly better vape with the TI wire. DON'T fire up the TI coils unless you've wicked and juiced them, as this will lead to oxidization and eventually it will burn away to fine ash. Flavour wise I'm really getting into the complexities of the mixers art and flavours I found too sweet and sickly before as an ADV are beginning to show their class. Hope this is of help.

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Thank you sydsut ... Back on topic at last

[qsplan]

Might be off-topic, but there's also Resitherm by Dicodes... Never used it so far, but read good things about it. If I remember correctly it also contains Ni...

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Aug 29, 2015 21:34:04 GMT Perpetua said:

Haven't a clue @yinyang . . . . thought I'd just pop in to give you a wave though.

Hi hun   

[VapingBad]

Aug 30, 2015 2:03:23 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

Ok i getcha i think but i still don't see how you don't use more energy.
To take your water pipe analogy if you have a thinner pipe you have to increase the pressure in order to move the same volume of water through it than on a thicker pipe.
Pressure is energy input, energy comes at a cost, i don't see any getting around it.

The metaphor is limited, but consider voltage and pressure as "potential energy" and the water (or electrons) moved as energy (work done/power used).

There is another that uses trains with a fast train with few cartridges being high amps and low volts moving the same number of passengers as a slow train with more cartridges low amps high volts.

The metaphors fall down if you push them, by for basic DC they are OK.  In the real world you loose loads of energy if you try and carry DC over distance and high volts are more efficient than high amps due to heat loss, but these effects are tiny in e-cig size circuits.

[tim]

Aug 29, 2015 23:37:21 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

Aug 29, 2015 23:14:31 GMT tim said:

You must need a new set of tastebuds Get Off My Cloud, I have never tasted so much flavour than from a TC mod.

But each to their own. Respect

Where do you have your temp limit set, same to you VapingBad on a lung hitting setup?
I will bet it's above the scorching point of cotton or you're taking really long pulls.

Maybe it is just me although i have my doubts because every time i watch a reviewer reviewing a TC device on a TC setup they've either got the limit up way above the scorching point or they're sat their pulling on the thing for like 10-15 seconds.

At the moment, I am using a 0.16ohm coil at 37 watts set at 400F on a subtank mini. If I up the watts to 45, the temp limit kicks in, which makes for an odd vape with it switching up and down. This is below the scorching point of cotton, which to a drinker like me is essential..........

You don't need massive watts to get good flavour or clouds with TC. You just need the set up right.

I am using nickel by the way. Not really played with Titanium.

Yet.