super T precise 18650 ???s

[Karma]

Mmm i don't know, to technical for me ???

Just stating my limited experience

[blakey]

In fact I was thinking of getting an 18350 mini provari- to get a feel of the battery life I put an 18350 in my full sized provari with a battery extender and I struggled to get 3hrs out of it before it died, that was at 4v on a 2ohm coil. So 4 of these 18350s will get me through the day-JUST 5 to be safe
2 18490's do the same job and DO last me the whole day in the provari.
That's the best comparison I can give you

[ragjoy]

Apr 7, 2012 20:10:19 GMT blakey said:

The 18350 won't stay as fresh as an 18650 for as long a period as you think. An 18650 will slowly reduce in voltage from 4.2 to say 3.6v over quite a long period before it falls below a sensible vaping power output. an 18350 will fall below that threshold much much quicker baring in mind that the nominal voltage for these type of battery's is 3.7v.
Can you not split the difference and get an 18490 mod?

sorry i didnt reply quicker my bookmark didnt kick in for some reason
thanks for that blakey.
the trouble is with the 18490 is again the size, the 18490 is the same size all but a couple of mm as the touchwood 18650.
that is what im trying to get away from, and being a bottom button it is longer in the palm.
in reality i want something that is not really available i suppose.

Apr 7, 2012 20:26:23 GMT blakey said:

In fact I was thinking of getting an 18350 mini provari- to get a feel of the battery life I put an 18350 in my full sized provari with a battery extender and I struggled to get 3hrs out of it before it died, that was at 4v on a 2ohm coil. So 4 of these 18350s will get me through the day-JUST 5 to be safe
2 18490's do the same job and DO last me the whole day in the provari.
That's the best comparison I can give you

blakey can you tell me, everyone keeps going on about VVs mostly the provari but as i only use boges (not sure of ohms) i get the impression it would be of no benefit to me, am i right or would it benefit me, if so how.

raggy........

[blakey]

Apr 10, 2012 11:44:08 GMT ragjoy said:

Apr 7, 2012 20:10:19 GMT blakey said:

The 18350 won't stay as fresh as an 18650 for as long a period as you think. An 18650 will slowly reduce in voltage from 4.2 to say 3.6v over quite a long period before it falls below a sensible vaping power output. an 18350 will fall below that threshold much much quicker baring in mind that the nominal voltage for these type of battery's is 3.7v.
Can you not split the difference and get an 18490 mod?

sorry i didnt reply quicker my bookmark didnt kick in for some reason
thanks for that blakey.
the trouble is with the 18490 is again the size, the 18490 is the same size all but a couple of mm as the touchwood 18650.
that is what im trying to get away from, and being a bottom button it is longer in the palm.
in reality i want something that is not really available i suppose.

Apr 7, 2012 20:26:23 GMT blakey said:

In fact I was thinking of getting an 18350 mini provari- to get a feel of the battery life I put an 18350 in my full sized provari with a battery extender and I struggled to get 3hrs out of it before it died, that was at 4v on a 2ohm coil. So 4 of these 18350s will get me through the day-JUST 5 to be safe
2 18490's do the same job and DO last me the whole day in the provari.
That's the best comparison I can give you

blakey can you tell me, everyone keeps going on about VVs mostly the provari but as i only use boges (not sure of ohms) i get the impression it would be of no benefit to me, am i right or would it benefit me, if so how.

raggy........

The greatest benefit for you would be regulated power. The voltage will stay the same from fresh battery to dead battery- no drop off at all. Second to that it will allow you to choose the voltage that you vape at, it gives you the ability to choose your own sweet spot.
I use boges myself, in an arry tank or lil mama as well as all the other gear I have and they perform very well at 4v for me.
Personally, mechanical mods with no regulated power drove me mad because I was constantly changing battery's trying to maintain a sensible vaping voltage so they were put to one side in favour of lavatubes and the provari untill the kick landed. I can now use any of my mods and get them to perform exactly how I want them to perform.
However- If you are perfectly happy with battery's losing power as they get run down then you really have no need for VV

[ragjoy]

thanks blakey,
i guess the provari must be a much better device than the lava tube but on a scale of 10 what would you give them both.
and bearing in mind i will only be using boges would the lava tube be adequate forme.
i realise im going round in circles a bit here but if im honest with my self the touchwood does a great job and to get one of the supers @ the price they are im gaining nothing really.
i will have a read up on the lava tube and there plenty for sale on ukv which did get me thinking they might be a bit rubbish.

raggy...........

[blakey]

The lavatube raggy, is quite a larger device than you were originally contemplating, It is low cost for what it is mind you and it does a very good job performance wise but many people are reporting problems with sticky buttons. From my own experience, I have 3 of them and they all are performing as they should and I really have had no issues with them. The provari on the other hand oozes quality and due to it's 18490 battery is much smaller, It is expensive for what it it is though and the makers qualify that price with the fact that there is no compromise in its components, Mine is not far from a year old and if I polished it you would be forgiven for thinking that its brand new, and in that time it has never missed a beat.
The ony function that a provari will give you over a lavatube is a built in ohm meter that will allow you to tell the ohmage of the attie or carto you are using and a far superior build quality.

You can get an 18350 battery size example of each of these vv mods if size is of that much of an issue
Or you can for a much cheaper price purchase something like a 900mah ego pass-thru battery that will give you 3 set voltages and regulated power with the added bonus of being able to plug it in to something like a car power point or a pc and vape from their power sources whilst charging the battery at the same time, Not to be sniffed at if you spend any amount of time near a usb point. something like this www.vapeescape.co.uk/900mah-variable-voltage-battery-%26-pass-through~287

Take a step back mate and think of what you really need from your device then post your requirements on here and we'll try to find the best thing for your needs.

[ragjoy]

thank you blakey,
plenty there to digest.
you are right, i really dont know what i want or why!.
i just feel i need to up the experience a bit, not that im not happy with the performance of the touchwood, it is by far the most consistent device ive had too date.
i have my ggtb oo sell and it wont get used now, so i want a reserve or a better performing device than the touchwood.
it has taken me 3 or 4 months to get to this stage and im no further forward really.
but if i dont know what i want i can hardly be helped.

raggy.........

[Queenie Bee]

Well I for one have found this all valuable info for my next upgrade none of this advice is wasted because it also helps others out, I am sure you will find what you are looking for stop thinking about it for a while and digest the info that always works for me! Good luck on your quest

[blakey]

One final little thing to add to the equation raggy, Have you looked at the megalodon?
That will give you a great vape, it's connections are brass so conduct electrical power very well indeed and you can remove the middle section when the need arises and use it as an 18350 mini mod. That will give you the best of both worlds as far as mod size is concerned. In 18650 size it will take an 18490 with the kick should you require regulated power and there is a small add on section arriving in april sometime that will allow the use of an 18490 or an 18350 with the kick. It's a great little versatile mod but I have to say that without the kick it just won't really outperform your touchwood, the super T-precise will hit a little harder due to it's build quality and better ability to conduct electrical power but not that much harder but what ever battery size you choose with it will be the one you are stuck with.
Sorry to confuddle you even more mate
Have a look at it in action here

[gizmondothefirst]

Raggy,

Bear with me on this as I have an idea that is still forming as I write......

Just lately I have been so busy with work and family that I haven't had much time to research vaping devices because, like you, I feel I need something different. I currently use Riva's/eGo's, the eGo pass-through that Blakey linked, a diy'd dual 18650 mod and a Lavatube.
I prefer the 18650 devices over the Riva's/eGo's, although the eGo pass-through is my preferred 'outdoor' device, as it's quite discreet and, if in a pub I can hold it in such a way that the majority of its length is under my sleeve and allows a proper stealth vape!

The dual 18650 mod is amazing for me and is my preferred device when indoors. I use 1.7 Ohm cartos which give (for me) the perfect all round vape, and the best thing is that I can go 2 days easily (usually longer!) without changing the batteries. The downside is that it's impractical to take out of the house, either to work or the pub.

The Lavatube, although a great piece of kit, is wasted on me as I will only be using the 1.7 Ohm cartos which don't really allow me to use the LT to its fullest.

So, this has got me thinking that I need something that uses a 3.7v battery, which has a long enough battery life so I can use it whilst out and about, but which also looks good and isn't cumbersome.

Which leads me on to the main point of me writing this......out of all the shinies on the market at the minute I am loving the GG devices and the Touchwood! I'm not sure the battery on the GGTB would last long enough as I prefer the duration of the 18650's (Is there an 18650 battery mod for the GGTB?) but it would be great for the pub runs.
The Touchwood is in my opinion gorgeous! I really love them and aim to have one in my collection one day.

Having said all that (eventually) the idea that is still forming in my head is this:
If you wanted (no pressure at all) I could lend you my Lavatube for you to try and see if it's for you, for a week/a month/whatever? and at the same time I could borrow either your GGTB or Touchwood.
There would be no commitment to buy after the agreed time, but it would give us both an ideal opportunity to 'try before we buy'.

I have no idea if this would work, or if you would be interested, but thought I would mention it anyway.

What do you think?

[Karma]

Giz, dual 18650 mod? sounds good

Link?

[gizmondothefirst]

Hey Karma

Made by my own fair hands so no links per-se, however I got the box from ebay:
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1x-18650-Battery-Case-2x-Parallel-Connection-DIY-Case-/180857711484?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a1bf5ab7c

All info was kindly given to me by 'Warlordxxx(Mark)' who's been v busy just lately:
www.allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=modding&thread=6167&page=1#144679

Don't tell me you're on the market for another device? hehe

[ragjoy]

Apr 10, 2012 15:37:22 GMT blakey said:

One final little thing to add to the equation raggy, Have you looked at the megalodon?
That will give you a great vape, it's connections are brass so conduct electrical power very well indeed and you can remove the middle section when the need arises and use it as an 18350 mini mod. That will give you the best of both worlds as far as mod size is concerned. In 18650 size it will take an 18490 with the kick should you require regulated power and there is a small add on section arriving in april sometime that will allow the use of an 18490 or an 18350 with the kick. It's a great little versatile mod but I have to say that without the kick it just won't really outperform your touchwood, the super T-precise will hit a little harder due to it's build quality and better ability to conduct electrical power but not that much harder but what ever battery size you choose with it will be the one you are stuck with.
Sorry to confuddle you even more mate
Have a look at it in action here

thanks blakey,
i did give the megalodon a small amount of thought but i think it may just be a sideways step, apart from the fact i would get mini device as well.
but i think i will dismiss that one for now.

raggy.......

[Karma]

Apr 10, 2012 19:43:59 GMT gizmondothefirst said:

Hey Karma

Made by my own fair hands so no links per-se, however I got the box from ebay:
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1x-18650-Battery-Case-2x-Parallel-Connection-DIY-Case-/180857711484?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a1bf5ab7c

All info was kindly given to me by 'Warlordxxx(Mark)' who's been v busy just lately:
www.allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=modding&thread=6167&page=1#144679

Don't tell me you're on the market for another device? hehe

Lol, sounds good , well done you, I'd just end up blowing myself up. I'll leave the mod making to you guys

[alvoram]

Apr 10, 2012 18:42:44 GMT gizmondothefirst said:

Raggy,

Bear with me on this as I have an idea that is still forming as I write......

Just lately I have been so busy with work and family that I haven't had much time to research vaping devices because, like you, I feel I need something different. I currently use Riva's/eGo's, the eGo pass-through that Blakey linked, a diy'd dual 18650 mod and a Lavatube.
I prefer the 18650 devices over the Riva's/eGo's, although the eGo pass-through is my preferred 'outdoor' device, as it's quite discreet and, if in a pub I can hold it in such a way that the majority of its length is under my sleeve and allows a proper stealth vape!

The dual 18650 mod is amazing for me and is my preferred device when indoors. I use 1.7 Ohm cartos which give (for me) the perfect all round vape, and the best thing is that I can go 2 days easily (usually longer!) without changing the batteries. The downside is that it's impractical to take out of the house, either to work or the pub.

The Lavatube, although a great piece of kit, is wasted on me as I will only be using the 1.7 Ohm cartos which don't really allow me to use the LT to its fullest.

So, this has got me thinking that I need something that uses a 3.7v battery, which has a long enough battery life so I can use it whilst out and about, but which also looks good and isn't cumbersome.

Which leads me on to the main point of me writing this......out of all the shinies on the market at the minute I am loving the GG devices and the Touchwood! I'm not sure the battery on the GGTB would last long enough as I prefer the duration of the 18650's (Is there an 18650 battery mod for the GGTB?) but it would be great for the pub runs.
The Touchwood is in my opinion gorgeous! I really love them and aim to have one in my collection one day.

Having said all that (eventually) the idea that is still forming in my head is this:
If you wanted (no pressure at all) I could lend you my Lavatube for you to try and see if it's for you, for a week/a month/whatever? and at the same time I could borrow either your GGTB or Touchwood.
There would be no commitment to buy after the agreed time, but it would give us both an ideal opportunity to 'try before we buy'.

I have no idea if this would work, or if you would be interested, but thought I would mention it anyway.

What do you think?

Think that's a great idea, and a nice offer.... So I thought I'd quote it incase it was missed first time If not, then I'm sorry