Innokin suggest Evolv have it wrong?

[Skwoddy]

guidetovaping.com/2015/05/28/innokin-itc-to-be-released-as-first-all-wire-temperature-control-device/

[VapingBad]

Another review skips around the subject and uses hundreds of words to say nothing, IMO.

[naDiel]

Also seen this post from guidetovaping this morning but I will sit back a watch as I think it is as good as the Asolo one.
Until thoroughly tested and proven I will wait before splashing my hard earned.

[Bobsbeer]

The report is from a while back. The Asolo is just about to hit the shelves, and that while not claiming full TC on Kanthal is claiming temperature control to a degree on kanthal. The proof is in the vaping for both these concepts. No doubt if found to be true others will follow in the same way TC with Ni200 has nearly become universal in the space of 12 months. Not all achieving it I admit, but it's hard not to fall over a TC mod these days, and the prices have plummeted as a result.

[naDiel]

Sept 14, 2015 8:30:04 GMT Bobsbeer said:

The report is from a while back. The Asolo is just about to hit the shelves, and that while not claiming full TC on Kanthal is claiming temperature control to a degree on kanthal. The proof is in the vaping for both these concepts. No doubt if found to be true others will follow in the same way TC with Ni200 has nearly become universal in the space of 12 months. Not all achieving it I admit, but it's hard not to fall over a TC mod these days, and the prices have plummeted as a result.

I do agree on that, but at the same time then I will sit back and wait till I only see positive reviews meaning that the manufacturers got it right.

[Bobsbeer]

As with all the "new" innovations, the manufacturers want you to jump right in and believe the claims. Sadly the guff about the Smok M80 and others has made people a bit sceptical, and rightly so. I see no reason technically why the claims can't be true. Who two years ago would have said TC on Ni200 would have worked? We know now it does. It seems vaping is rapidly entering into the realm of former science fiction. It makes you wonder what the next great innovation will be.

[vapee]

I think the pics on the article are from a previous prototype as the more recent pics look alot more like the disrupter mod, apparently theres a new connection, probably larger than the 510 but it comes with a 510 adaptor too, the tank according to reddit has some kind of thermometer inside it too, not much info has been posted or pics of the insides yet, apparently it'll be available in october, gonna be interesting but it could mean we're limited to only specific innokin tanks at the start.



https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/3gyw6b/introducing_innokin_advanced_temperature_control/

[phatfil]

having played about with electronic temperature sensing with arduino and other pic platforms you may find passive temp reading will incur some processing overhead, and active temp reading will require recharge periods between measurements, So actively monitoring coil temps during a few seconds of vaping is gonna be a challange. perhaps we will end up with pid controlled mods reaching for a temp ceiling in ever decreasing power surges..

[letsavit]

We are not really vaping at temp, just controlling the temp of the heat source, the coil, the temp of the vapour itself is not measured nor controlled. Unless I see a temp probe in a tank Evolv have done temp control at the coil as good as it gets and that was nearly a year ago now.

[slaw]

Sept 14, 2015 17:11:48 GMT phatfil said:

having played about with electronic temperature sensing with arduino and other pic platforms you may find passive temp reading will incur some processing overhead, and active temp reading will require recharge periods between measurements, So actively monitoring coil temps during a few seconds of vaping is gonna be a challange. perhaps we will end up with pid controlled mods reaching for a temp ceiling in ever decreasing power surges..

That's a fascinating idea. How does that work? What processing is needed? With thing like the DNA 200, there is a place for an intelligent chip

[phatfil]

Sept 14, 2015 19:42:00 GMT slaw said:

That's a fascinating idea. How does that work? What processing is needed? With thing like the DNA 200, there is a place for an intelligent chip

IF some method of taking a uber quick temperature reading is used, then its all very doable, you would need a pretty high clock speed  This code  has a duty cycle of circa 500ms iirc (some delay is needed when using some active sensors to read the temps 750ms iirc..) when run on a 16mhz chip..  and i expect it could be optimised.    so as is could sample /react 1-2 times per second which wouldnt work too well    

the thing would be how to measure the coil temp??