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Post by VapingBad on Jan 21, 2016 10:01:36 GMT
3rd build now and the best so far, two horizontal coils, loaded the deck with cotton, binned the drip tip, band for all holes which are 50% covered.....SS16 TC. To be honest much the same as the original subtank, the one I bought after that and quite possibly the next one I buy......they're all becoming much the same to me now days....! It is much better with the coils nice an high, top level with the top of the post for horizontal IMO, go the tip form blakey originally. I use 2 mm coils 10 wraps, T1 0.4 or twisted 0.25 Ni or may fave triple twisted 0.2 mm Ni, the Ni ones are 0.05 ohm so only DNA200. ETA with these builds I don't need the airflow ring the wicks block the air holes enough for me.
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Post by letsavit on Jan 21, 2016 10:34:32 GMT
3rd build now and the best so far, two horizontal coils, loaded the deck with cotton, binned the drip tip, band for all holes which are 50% covered.....SS16 TC. To be honest much the same as the original subtank, the one I bought after that and quite possibly the next one I buy......they're all becoming much the same to me now days....! It is much better with the coils nice an high, top level with the top of the post for horizontal IMO, go the tip form blakey originally. I use 2 mm coils 10 wraps, T1 0.4 or twisted 0.25 Ni or may fave triple twisted 0.2 mm Ni, the Ni ones are 0.05 ohm so only DNA200. ETA with these builds I don't need the airflow ring the wicks block the air holes enough for me. Sorry got *vertical coils......edited......but noted for horizontal, my last two builds... .. Next I'll try some NI200 Hendrix me thinks, but which way.....! Edit... How about crossed 45 degrees.....?
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Post by VapingBad on Jan 21, 2016 10:36:44 GMT
It is much better with the coils nice an high, top level with the top of the post for horizontal IMO, go the tip form blakey originally. I use 2 mm coils 10 wraps, T1 0.4 or twisted 0.25 Ni or may fave triple twisted 0.2 mm Ni, the Ni ones are 0.05 ohm so only DNA200. ETA with these builds I don't need the airflow ring the wicks block the air holes enough for me. Sorry got *vertical coils......edited......but noted for horizontal, my last two builds... .. Next I'll try some NI200 Hendrix me thinks, but which way.....! Edit... How about crossed 45 degrees.....? I found vertical coils very weak, maybe not man enough only having it at 50 W.
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Post by letsavit on Jan 21, 2016 10:48:27 GMT
Sorry got *vertical coils......edited......but noted for horizontal, my last two builds... .. Next I'll try some NI200 Hendrix me thinks, but which way.....! Edit... How about crossed 45 degrees.....? I found vertical coils very weak, maybe not man enough only having it at 50 W. I'm running at 430f and it's not using anymore than 20watts..... I'm doing something wrong...!
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Post by VapingBad on Jan 21, 2016 10:55:59 GMT
I found vertical coils very weak, maybe not man enough only having it at 50 W. I'm running at 430f and it's not using anymore than 20watts..... I'm doing something wrong...! No, vape it however it suits you sir. I am at 50 W 355 F and it still uses most of the 50 W with the horiz Ni, even done a cotton scorch test to check it is reading the temp right, but have to up it a lot if I add VG to my 100% PG liquid. Had it up to 70 W for a while, but my inhale suites 40-50 W.
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Post by letsavit on Jan 21, 2016 15:49:29 GMT
Oh I give up, wasted my time on yet another build, conclusion;
for a duel it's shite, mostly hot air like me.....
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Post by VapingBad on Jan 21, 2016 15:57:51 GMT
Which one is it letsavit? I might take it off your hands for a few beer tokens if you are done with it.
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Post by letsavit on Jan 21, 2016 16:14:16 GMT
Which one is it letsavit? I might take it off your hands for a few beer tokens if you are done with it. I'm done with it, two post v deck, PM me you pr adresss
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Post by blakey on Jan 21, 2016 17:22:23 GMT
Sorry got *vertical coils......edited......but noted for horizontal, my last two builds... .. Next I'll try some NI200 Hendrix me thinks, but which way.....! Edit... How about crossed 45 degrees.....? I found vertical coils very weak, maybe not man enough only having it at 50 W. Vertical coils can be weak if you leave too much wick protruding from the top of the coils, cut it back to about 1-2mm of protrusion. Too much wick up top messes with the airflow
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Post by minime on Jan 21, 2016 17:23:52 GMT
So are these just like the subtank for flavour ?
Would I be wasting my money if I got one then.
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Post by blakey on Jan 21, 2016 17:31:41 GMT
So are these just like the subtank for flavour ? Would I be wasting my money if I got one then. Properly wicked and coiled they are in my opinion better than the subtanks for direct lung vaping. The subtank will have it on mouth to lung though
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Post by minime on Jan 21, 2016 17:37:45 GMT
See I don't get that good flavour from my sub tank tbh, bugger I was hoping this would have been the one.
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Post by VapingBad on Jan 21, 2016 18:21:01 GMT
Chalk and cheese IMO, I find the high up horizontal build the most flavour full dense vape I have got from a cotton RTA, SubTanks I found watery.
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Post by letsavit on Jan 21, 2016 18:30:59 GMT
If you want not a lot flavour and not a lot of vapor and a lot of air then it's a great..... Seriously though and it's all personal taste, I think a single coil subtank is better so for me this being duel is not worth it. Still can't find a tank to touch a kayfun MTL for flavour and I have tried.....!
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Post by car147 on Jan 21, 2016 18:46:47 GMT
I found vertical coils very weak, maybe not man enough only having it at 50 W. Vertical coils can be weak if you leave too much wick protruding from the top of the coils, cut it back to about 1-2mm of protrusion. Too much wick up top messes with the airflow Cracking tip, just trimmed the wick on my vertical coils as I felt it was just missing something, what a difference once they are trimmed. cheers
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