Looking for support, a new twist on TPD petition UPDATED

[smokingaces]

2000 now

[Deleted]

I don't quite understand why this has only attracted 2010 signatures.
It's all over Twitter, here, no doubt other forums too.

This OUR future.

ALL vapers should sign this without fail.

Spread the word, get it signed, encourage others to sign (non vapers most welcome.)

Come on folks.

[smokingaces]

Jan 23, 2016 15:56:24 GMT RangersBillyBoy said:

I don't quite understand why this has only attracted 2010 signatures.
It's all over Twitter, here, no doubt other forums too.

This OUR future.

ALL vapers should sign this without fail.

Spread the word, get it signed, encourage others to sign (non vapers most welcome.)

Come on folks.

Yes I was thinking that, 2.6 million vapers in the UK and we are looking at 3.85 percent to get round the 100000 mark. I think most vapers think it won't change once the TPD comes in.

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Jan 23, 2016 18:08:24 GMT smokingaces said:

Jan 23, 2016 15:56:24 GMT RangersBillyBoy said:

I don't quite understand why this has only attracted 2010 signatures.
It's all over Twitter, here, no doubt other forums too.

This OUR future.

ALL vapers should sign this without fail.

Spread the word, get it signed, encourage others to sign (non vapers most welcome.)

Come on folks.

Yes I was thinking that, 2.6 million vapers in the UK and we are looking at 3.85 percent to get round the 100000 mark. I think most vapers think it won't change once the TPD comes in.

Yes I agree. I also think there are some folk who think because they have 30 mods, 40 attys and enough juice and nic to last them 99 years that's it's not their problem.
Whilst it may not directly affect them I think we all have a responsibility to help smokers convert and save lives in the process.
After all, we have seen the light and are benefiting. I hope ANYONE who wants to switch is given the chance we were.

[smokingaces]

Jan 23, 2016 18:17:51 GMT RangersBillyBoy said:

Jan 23, 2016 18:08:24 GMT smokingaces said:

Yes I was thinking that, 2.6 million vapers in the UK and we are looking at 3.85 percent to get round the 100000 mark. I think most vapers think it won't change once the TPD comes in.

Yes I agree. I also think there are some folk who think because they have 30 mods, 40 attys and enough juice and nic to last them 99 years that's it's not their problem.
Whilst it may not directly affect them I think we all have a responsibility to help smokers convert and save lives in the process.
After all, we have seen the light and are benefiting. I hope ANYONE who wants to switch is given the chance we were.

I think the TPD is just the start of it, lets be truthful who really pushing this? tobacco industry and pharmaceutical industry, then there the tax's the governments are losing, direct from sale £13 billion and the tax collect from the tobacco companies'. it's not in the governments interest for us all too stop smoking.

[robby]

2069

[smokingaces]

Needs another push this weekend, still pretty piss poor considering there meant to be around 2.6 million vapers in the UK

[bioxx]

Signed

[digicig]

Not saying this is 'true' - but at school the stereotype perpetuated of the smokers, was that they were unmotivated, self-interested, lazy (the ones who walked cross country ) and obviously didn't think of the future repercussions of their actions. Now this was a school teacher and non-smokers image mind you.

I do sometimes wonder though, from a psychological perspective, if this stereotype does have any basis in behavioural 'traits', then just because they've made a switch from smoking to vaping (for health, economic or social reasons), that wouldn't mean any of the other behavioural traits would change with it.

Vapers on forums do tend to be of the more motivated and curious type - and break the 'mould' set by this stereotype - but if my teachers assessment were at all accurate, then the degree of response and apathy would be expected

[smokingaces]

Jan 30, 2016 6:10:49 GMT digicig said:

Not saying this is 'true' - but at school the stereotype perpetuated of the smokers, was that they were unmotivated, self-interested, lazy (the ones who walked cross country ) and obviously didn't think of the future repercussions of their actions. Now this was a school teacher and non-smokers image mind you.

I do sometimes wonder though, from a psychological perspective, if this stereotype does have any basis in behavioural 'traits', then just because they've made a switch from smoking to vaping (for health, economic or social reasons), that wouldn't mean any of the other behavioural traits would change with it.

Vapers on forums do tend to be of the more motivated and curious type - and break the 'mould' set by this stereotype - but if my teachers assessment were at all accurate, then the degree of response and apathy would be expected

I don't really understand the thinking behind not signing it.I have this sneaky feeling that most think it will not have any effect on how they vape and a certain few are just too lazy to be bothered, and then there the majority that won't sign as they believe that it will make no difference even it the petition reached the 100000 mark.

[Bobsbeer]

Most vapers are not on forums, or at least not vaping forums. Take AAEC for instance, there are 8700 members, but of those there are maybe 500 active members, and some of those will be on other forums as well. So in reality very few active people to sign petitions.

[MRS SLEEPY]

Jan 30, 2016 9:07:29 GMT Bobsbeer said:

Most vapers are not on forums, or at least not vaping forums. Take AAEC for instance, there are 8700 members, but of those there are maybe 500 active members, and some of those will be on other forums as well. So in reality very few active people to sign petitions.

I agree on that mate . Don't think we can get there.  So sad as we have so many vapers, we cant reach.

[nanotm]

Jan 30, 2016 19:16:36 GMT MRS SLEEPY said:

Jan 30, 2016 9:07:29 GMT Bobsbeer said:

Most vapers are not on forums, or at least not vaping forums. Take AAEC for instance, there are 8700 members, but of those there are maybe 500 active members, and some of those will be on other forums as well. So in reality very few active people to sign petitions.

I agree on that mate . Don't think we can get there.  So sad as we have so many vapers, we cant reach.

robby

one way to reach more would be to splash the link to every twitter trend or facebook or YT viral vid, and post it in the comments section of the online news (via MSN/facebookplugin) especially on any story about smoking or vaping but just on any story, it might get the message out there to the rest of the UK given so many people who vape will also be active in the twitosphere or other high traffic pointless social media, and blogs


I don't do any of that stuff so I cant help in that regard but i'm sure you guys can figure out a marketing strategy that gets some youth into helping you promote political awareness of the problem of the government stealing yet more civil liberties and human rights from the public