Anyone using NiFe 30 from Stealthvape?

[jtc]

Yes I'm very curious
Ive ordered some 26 gauge to try

[VapingBad]

I got some on 0.4 mm Friday and am impressed, it works a lot better than the ss317L from VapeMesh, but none of the SteamEngine the materials profiles match that ss wire. It is a better match to the materials profile than SVs Ti which is OK you just need to up the temp a little for the Ti, the scorch test is spot on.

I gives a nice vape and regulates temp nice and smoothly. The resistance is very low (dual 10 wrap 2 mm coils = 0.08 ohm) and it is more Kanthal like to work with than Ti and if that's important for you it is well worth getting the NiFe30.

[mikedidthis]

After a week of playing with NiFe30, I really really like it. The only downside is the low resistance. For single coils its fine, but dual coils I struggle to get anything above 0.1ohm.

NiFe48 looks like a winner though!

[Bob]

Feb 7, 2016 13:23:17 GMT VapingBad said:

I got some on 0.4 mm Friday and am impressed, it works a lot better than the ss317L from VapeMesh, but none of the SteamEngine the materials profiles match that wire. It is a better match to the materials profile than SVs Ti which is OK you just need to up the temp a little for the Ti, the scorch test is spot on.

I gives a nice vape and regulates temp nice and smoothly. The resistance is very low (dual 10 wrap 2 mm coils = 0.08 ohm) and it is more Kanthal like to work with than Ti and if that's important for you it is well worth getting the NiFe30.

Did you not get it from StealthVape, the profile for their NiFe30 is on S-E

[VapingBad]

Feb 7, 2016 14:17:34 GMT Bob said:

Feb 7, 2016 13:23:17 GMT VapingBad said:

I got some on 0.4 mm Friday and am impressed, it works a lot better than the ss317L from VapeMesh, but none of the SteamEngine the materials profiles match that wire. It is a better match to the materials profile than SVs Ti which is OK you just need to up the temp a little for the Ti, the scorch test is spot on.

I gives a nice vape and regulates temp nice and smoothly. The resistance is very low (dual 10 wrap 2 mm coils = 0.08 ohm) and it is more Kanthal like to work with than Ti and if that's important for you it is well worth getting the NiFe30.

Did you not get it from StealthVape, the profile for their NiFe30 is on S-E

No it was vape mesh co ss317L that I couldn't find a profile that was anywhere near correct,  the SV NiFe30 was spot on.

[Bob]

Feb 7, 2016 16:28:28 GMT VapingBad said:

Feb 7, 2016 14:17:34 GMT Bob said:

Did you not get it from StealthVape, the profile for their NiFe30 is on S-E

No it was vape mesh co ss317L that I couldn't find a profile that was anywhere near correct,  the SV NiFe30 was spot on.

Ah! that's cleared that up, was misreading you

[mikedidthis]

Feb 7, 2016 17:15:46 GMT Bob said:

Feb 7, 2016 16:28:28 GMT VapingBad said:

No it was vape mesh co ss317L that I couldn't find a profile that was anywhere near correct,  the SV NiFe30 was spot on.

Ah! that's cleared that up, was misreading you

Seems I was as well!

[VapingBad]

sorry

[mikedidthis]

Feb 7, 2016 17:47:51 GMT VapingBad said:

sorry

No need to apologise! So if you had to pick, NiFe30 or SS317L what would you go with?

[VapingBad]

Feb 7, 2016 17:49:07 GMT mikedidthis said:

Feb 7, 2016 17:47:51 GMT VapingBad said:

sorry

No need to apologise! So if you had to pick, NiFe30 or SS317L what would you go with?

No contest the NiFe30 it works very well with the Steam Engine profile, but that vape mesh co ss317L doesn't seem to match any of the ss profiles I tried plus the temp limiting is very spiky and the best thing IMO is just to use the preheat and set the wattage so it stays below temp.

[mikedidthis]

I couldn't have put it better myself. NiFe30 is lovely, I just wish it had a higher resistance.

SS317l is lovely in power mode, but in TC on the mini / cuboid, its all over the place. I presume this is due to its low TCR? if that is the correct term.

[phatfil]

excuse the hijack but may i ask?? Are SS and NiFe wires prefered over Ni and Ti due to the ability to dry fire/test the coil? I am nervous about coiling NI and TI as i have had a few kanthal coils when dry fired too quickly glow red on the leg and burn out due to my lack of coiling skill no doubt, not often but it has happened..
the fumes from doing this with a Ni or Ti coil is a cause of some concern, and the ability to dry fire strum/tune a coil prior to wicking/vaping has led me to use mostly off the shelf coil heads for TC vaping.

[VapingBad]

Feb 7, 2016 18:01:53 GMT mikedidthis said:

I couldn't have put it better myself. NiFe30 is lovely, I just wish it had a higher resistance.

SS317l is lovely in power mode, but in TC on the mini / cuboid, its all over the place. I presume this is due to its low TCR? if that is the correct term.

It did the same on a DNA200, but the materials profile csv (like a more detailed TCR) was why out by a scorch test it got far far hotter than it should have.

Yes Temperature Coefficient of Resistance, how much the resistance changes with temp.

[VapingBad]

Feb 7, 2016 18:14:19 GMT phatfil said:

excuse the hijack but may i ask?? Are SS and NiFe wires prefered over Ni and Ti due to the ability to dry fire/test the coil? I am nervous about coiling NI and TI as i have had a few kanthal coils when dry fired too quickly glow red on the leg and burn out due to my lack of coiling skill no doubt, not often but it has happened..
the fumes from doing this with a Ni or Ti coil is a cause of some concern, and the ability to dry fire strum/tune a coil prior to wicking/vaping has led me to use mostly off the shelf coil heads for TC vaping.

Yes, Ti, SS and NiFe are all a lot stiffer than Ni so more like coiling with kanthal, but as you say Ni and Ti defiantly should not be made to glow really bright.  Although I have dry burnt Ni to a very dark red glow then washed it, but these days I have a dry burn profile for each wire type 15 W with 600 F limit that gets most of the gunk off.  Stealth Vape don't recommend getting NiFe30 to glow, but say they are not aware of any reason not to.  And the general opinion is that is OK for SS, probably no science behind this though.

[Bob]

Feb 7, 2016 18:23:27 GMT VapingBad said:

Feb 7, 2016 18:14:19 GMT phatfil said:

excuse the hijack but may i ask?? Are SS and NiFe wires prefered over Ni and Ti due to the ability to dry fire/test the coil? I am nervous about coiling NI and TI as i have had a few kanthal coils when dry fired too quickly glow red on the leg and burn out due to my lack of coiling skill no doubt, not often but it has happened..
the fumes from doing this with a Ni or Ti coil is a cause of some concern, and the ability to dry fire strum/tune a coil prior to wicking/vaping has led me to use mostly off the shelf coil heads for TC vaping.

Yes, Ti, SS and NiFe are all a lot stiffer than Ni so more like coiling with kanthal, but as you say Ni and Ti defiantly should not be made to glow really bright.  Although I have dry burnt Ni to a very dark red glow then washed it, but these days I have a dry burn profile for each wire type 15 W with 600 F limit that gets most of the gunk off.  Stealth Vape don't recommend getting NiFe30 to glow, but say they are not aware of any reason not to.  And the general opinion is that is OK for SS, probably no science behind this though.

I've always used 10w irrespective of wire, it takes longer to get them to glow but you can usually spot a problem earlier, although I have still had legs burn out occasionally