new vaping law

[sydsut]

Nov 17, 2015 20:58:27 GMT Greg said:

Nov 17, 2015 20:55:08 GMT sydsut said:

I've got 16 Mechanical Mods and 19 RDAs as the Govt. can't ban wire, batteries, cotton, PG, VG, flavourings etc. and have reduced my nic from 24mg to 3mg in a year and a half. That way is the only way of ensuring that I have the means to vape if the worst comes to the worst. Get in a stock of mechs and RDAs, you shouldn't need as many as me, learn to mix your own e-liquid and try to gradually cut down on the amount of nic in the mixes and it should be tolerable. But almost certainly the promotion of vaping will be severely curtailed and so sites, blogs and forums like this may well disappear.

I doubt that very much. 

Why

[Clivia]

I am with Greg - in German we have a saying : nothing will be eaten as hot as it was cooked

yes there will be some inconveniences - but let's be prepared a bit - as said above with diy mixing, subohming and selfcoiling - and this froum certainly will not disappear - we all will make sure of that

also how do they want in reality control a lot of stuff - imagine the following scene - a nice park somewhere in the UK - a vaping police officer : ' your Sir , who just lit the 3rd cigarette in 30 ins are fine - but you Sir with the vaping gear - is this a 2ml tank or a 2,5 one ? - nah I doubt it - but then I am always an optimist

[Greg]

Nov 17, 2015 21:05:34 GMT sydsut said:

Nov 17, 2015 20:58:27 GMT Greg said:

I doubt that very much. 

Why

I just can't see it happening. I've heard this said many times which got me thinking, I wonder what other sites exist for illegal activities on the Internet.

So I tried a little search - heroin anyone :-

drugs-forum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=123&order=desc&page=2

It's actually a fascinating read and I joined up and ive spent some time over there, many of the members are now dead as denoted in their status.
Theres even an ecig sub forum although i've not noticed any dead members in there so it's likely fair to say ecigs are less harmful than heroin.

So based on the fact a forum exists where IVing heroin, or any other drug you can imagine, into veins in your neck or groin as all their other veins are worn out I'm quietly confident ecig forums will live long and prosper.

[sydsut]

Dear Drugs-Forum readers: We are a small non-profit that runs one of the most read drug information & addiction help websites in the world

Where's the adverts for JUNKIES 'R' US, people telling how to make the best concoctions, how to smuggle drugs over the borders etc. It's a drug awareness site. It doesn't promote drug taking. If our site carries on and promotes vaping and is banned will the moderators keep it going possibly risking a custodial sentence. I doubt it. And Greg and Clivia and others who are complacent I think you're all in for a rude shock.

[Clivia]

sydsut - laws can and mostly likely will control vaping - however they won't ban or forbid it - they will try everything to tax it and make money out of it - yes - this is why we want to be prepared - specially with nic base , cause it will come down to the nicotine - otherwise they would need to ban inhalers for asthmatic people as well

and there are already too many in the medical sector, who promote vaping, even the NHS considered to get vaping gear for heavy smokers

[Greg]

Nov 17, 2015 21:36:25 GMT sydsut said:

Dear Drugs-Forum readers: We are a small non-profit that runs one of the most read drug information & addiction help websites in the world

Where's the adverts for JUNKIES 'R' US, people telling how to make the best concoctions, how to smuggle drugs over the borders etc. It's a drug awareness site. It doesn't promote drug taking. If our site carries on and promotes vaping and is banned will the moderators keep it going possibly risking a custodial sentence. I doubt it. And Greg and Clivia and others who are complacent I think you're all in for a rude shock.

It may be a drugs awareness site but people are openly discussing the use of illegal drugs and the best ways to administer. They also always speak in the third person, ie SWIM, to prevent incriminating themselves.
Who knows what they talk about in group PM's though, any thoughts 

I'm also not convinced it did too much in the way of help for those that are dead.

To be fair im not in for a shock at all even in the unlikely event you are right. A tad dissapointed maybe but I'll carry on vaping until I chose to stop regardless of any restrictions.

I guess only time will tell but I'm confident you're wrong.

[Greg]

Nov 17, 2015 21:42:18 GMT Clivia said:

sydsut - laws can and mostly likely will control vaping - however they won't ban or forbid it - they will try everything to tax it and make money out of it - yes - this is why we want to be prepared - specially with nic base , cause it will come down to the nicotine - otherwise they would need to ban inhalers for asthmatic people as well

and there are already too many in the medical sector, who promote vaping, even the NHS considered to get vaping gear for heavy smokers

Ive been Nic free a couple of months now and it's the way forward. I reduced really slowly over the last year or so and can honestly say I never once craved nic after I went to 0mg. The key for me was to drop only 1mg at a time, mixing your own obviously gives you this flexibility.

Ive still got Litres of Nic in the freezer though, you never know it ay be worth more than gold next year 

[Greg]

Nov 17, 2015 21:36:25 GMT sydsut said:

Dear Drugs-Forum readers: We are a small non-profit that runs one of the most read drug information & addiction help websites in the world

Where's the adverts for JUNKIES 'R' US, people telling how to make the best concoctions, how to smuggle drugs over the borders etc. It's a drug awareness site. It doesn't promote drug taking. If our site carries on and promotes vaping and is banned will the moderators keep it going possibly risking a custodial sentence. I doubt it. And Greg and Clivia and others who are complacent I think you're all in for a rude shock.

Really, clearly you haven't read many of the posts. Try dipping your toe in the heroin forum then tell me it doesn't promote drug use 

Maybe we can rebadge AAEC as an ecig awareness site. Look on the bright side though, even if they ban everything ecigs we can always switch to dope as that's only Class A

[prr]

I think the right of freedom of speech and freedom of expression is enshrined in the EU article of human rights?

[nanotm]

hell if they start trying to shut down the websites like this forum then just move the hosting company so its outside the eu keep the web address and have it point forward to the new web space, and that's only if they get all gung ho about it,

the EU legislation suggests banning advertising for vape products big pharma don't want that if they cant advertise their product on the tv nobody will buy it and they loose all that money /