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Post by vapemeister69 on Jan 24, 2016 22:14:49 GMT
It has been done to death & thousands of us already know about diacetyl & vaping, especially if you've vaped for a good while & been around on the forums. A lot of us also know & have seen the carp that regularly gets spouted & printed about it, but please remember that there are millions that don't know & have only seen or heard that carp, sadly. As the bad press gets remembered. It will crop up a good few times more, so please, just remember Perpetua 's saved chart above & quote it. vapemeister69 , best revisit that vape shop & show him a print out. I totally agree. He only sells 100% VG juices so I did get the impression it was a sales tactic on his side. I found the chart from Pepetua extremely helpful and I will print it off and show him as he was a bit of a know-it-all so will be fun to hit him with some hard facts. I apologise in advance for bringing up a topic a few people seem to find a bit tiresome.
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Post by Perpetua on Jan 24, 2016 22:25:47 GMT
I found the chart from Pepetua extremely helpful and I will print it off and show him as he was a bit of a know-it-all so will be fun to hit him with some hard facts. I apologise in advance for bringing up a topic a few people seem to find a bit tiresome. Go sock it to him vapemeister69. And you weren't to know that it's a discussion so many of us have seen, taken part in many times over now . . . . on the plus side you've provided an opportunity to set the record a little straighter.
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Post by MRS SLEEPY on Jan 24, 2016 22:40:00 GMT
Thank you Perpetua I appreciate your support and I will learn from any mistakes I make and not make them again. Length of membership does not allow someone to be arrogant and dismissive and rude like our friend Kreed. .Well if any one has made a mistake its me . lol .Been on Custards for 4 half years now. Feel great. After 45 Years, of smoking
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Post by Perpetua on Jan 24, 2016 22:45:14 GMT
Ok, so I've done some housekeeping on this thread . . . . if it can't be kept civil, then it will be locked and ' Dog Ended ' - which would be a pity as there is some useful information on it, that could be of interest to any number of vapers.
If anyone has issues with another Member, whether it's via PM or otherwise . . . . can they please contact one of us and we will step in.
Thank you.
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Post by flavourtank on Jan 24, 2016 22:50:48 GMT
Ok, so I've done some housekeeping on this thread . . . . if it can't be kept civil, then it will be locked and ' Dog Ended ' - which would be a pity as there is some useful information on it, that could be of interest to any number of vapers. If anyone has issues with another Member, whether it's via PM or otherwise . . . . can they please contact one of us and we will step in. Thank you. could you not make a sticky with your graph and link to the subject? Just thinking for future reference Btw Happy birthday for yesterday X
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Post by Postmodern Smoking on Jan 24, 2016 22:53:37 GMT
Whilst levels of diacetyl are likely to be low, those still concerned can source diacetyl (or other similar diketones) free flavour concentrates / e-liquid.
Many flavour houses have also produced a version 2 of their suspect flavours. But many people prefer the taste with small amounts of these compounds!
It all comes down to personal choice. And it should be remembered that the levels that we are talking about appear to be considerably less than found in cigarettes.
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Post by Clivia on Jan 24, 2016 22:58:25 GMT
not at all vapemeister69 - actually thanks for bringing it up - only a few days ago a friend of our's mentioned popcorn lungs - and I wanted to do some research - as I had not heard about it - you saved me a lot of time - did not even know, that it was discussed over and over again already
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Post by MRS SLEEPY on Jan 24, 2016 23:17:35 GMT
not at all vapemeister69 - actually thanks for bringing it up - only a few days ago a friend of our's mentioned popcorn lungs - and I wanted to do some research - as I had not heard about it - you saved me a lot of time - did not even know, that it was discussed over and over again already Sorry you not heard about it! But witch do you what. I think we are safer ecigs
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Post by Clivia on Jan 24, 2016 23:18:39 GMT
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Post by MRS SLEEPY on Jan 24, 2016 23:21:05 GMT
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Post by Perpetua on Jan 24, 2016 23:32:57 GMT
Whilst levels of diacetyl are likely to be low, those still concerned can source diacetyl (or other similar diketones) free flavour concentrates / e-liquid. Many flavour houses have also produced a version 2 of their suspect flavours. But many people prefer the taste with small amounts of these compounds! It all comes down to personal choice. And it should be remembered that the levels that we are talking about appear to be considerably less than found in cigarettes. This also makes interesting reading from Capella Dave . . . . . www.capellaflavors.com/a-p-status/
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Post by dagl on Jan 25, 2016 0:32:02 GMT
Oh ffs! I sit down to watch a film, have a looksie on here when its finished and kreeds buggerd orf! Miss all the juicey bits me! to see you go Kev
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Post by JazzyJ on Jan 25, 2016 4:52:58 GMT
He didn't lie to you....it's true......most good custards contain diacetyl. What the vaper of 6 years obviously then failed to tell you......is that it's in far less quantities than it is in cigarettes. The whole diacetyl thing was a tactic dreamed up by the anti- mob as a way to demonise vaping. In a nutshell........it's a crock. One other thing I will add in that I recently read ( can't remember where sorry) Is that there has not been a single case reported of a smoker that has developed popcorn lung, So if this is the case and it's true it's doubtful It would happen from e-liquid as it contains far less then a cigarette? If you look round the forums you will find plenty of threads on this subject as its been very heavily discussed as you have probably guessed ;0) If you use facebook and want to discuss with someone who knows far more than I do There is a guy called Konstantinos Farsalinos Who has done more research on the topic than most, he goes all over the world discussing this issue amongst others,
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Post by grizwald56 on Jan 25, 2016 6:13:15 GMT
Nicely said Perpetua. I think that at the end of the day it is for each individual to research the subject and ask experienced members on the forum for their input, how else will they put their minds at ease? This is a subject that will come up many more times yet, regardless of whether or not it has been done to death.
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Post by Perpetua on Jan 25, 2016 6:20:01 GMT
This is a subject that will come up many more times yet, regardless of whether or not it has been done to death. Indeed it will Griz . . . . and, as we always say on here - the only stupid question is the one not asked.
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