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Post by GunJack on Feb 3, 2016 8:21:01 GMT
The American Lung Association should in my opinion be utterly ashamed of the lies that they are spreading. yes, them and all the other idiots out there who purport to be concerned with "public health"
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Post by nanotm on Feb 3, 2016 9:38:06 GMT
The American Lung Association should in my opinion be utterly ashamed of the lies that they are spreading. yes, them and all the other idiots out there who purport to be concerned with "public health" strangely they had a lab study completely binned despite spending $200million on it, alledgedly the study was to do with using air from different environments in conjunction with tobacco and vapour inhalations on live animals over period of 12 months, ok they super strengthed the levels of inhalant in the various enclosures to simulate a life time of smoking (I presume they used mice) they brerad the mice from clean stock in a lab down the road, shipped up enire breeding groups and split them up, one went in a tank full of city air from new York (40% diso fumes) one went in a tank full of tobacco smoke in "standard air" and another in newyork +tobacco smoke, another went in a tank of countryside air (zero pollutants) and then countryside air with tobacco smoke, and then they did them all with vapour (apparently this involved machine burning 20k fags and 20 gallons of e-liquid per tank and the results are alledged to have been that the pollution alone had the same number of cancerous formations as the polutioion + smoke whilst the countryside smoke had the same as the pure countryside whilst vapour units had less in both cases. now since it was deep-sixed without the report being produced one would question if this rumour is true or if the known fact that ever since the adoption of the motor vehicle cancer rates have gone up at a staggering rate despite the general populace having been smoking for more than 100 years at that point (in victorian England kids smoked and drank gin by the gallon yet few suffered the problems associated with "bad living", yes many died of consumption through weak immune systems[T.B. etc] but that's more likely down to lack of food) which begs the question if its the smoking that kills or other environmental secondary effects interacting with it, now i'm not suggesting smoking is good (clearly it clogs the lungs and is bad for us) but like all things it seems the public health teams formulated a plan to make money and didn't give two figs about the truth, we can see that in the way they have been attacking food groups and vaping but I find it interesting they would even undertake such research and then bin it rather than either fudge the figures or report them with some specialised spin, which rather begs the question of did they know all along that far from so called "bad living" being the problem it was agenda's like smothering the electric car industry that were causing the problems in an effort to keep population numbers down once someone figured out what a geometric expansion looked like (think early colonist setttlers in the USA who somehow expanded from a few hundred to a few hundred thousand in less than 50 years so much that they needed to murder the indigenous populace to continue finding lands to ocupy (and that's the numbers based on breeding rather than on more arriving, once transportation arrived the numbers truly exploded)
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Post by GunJack on Feb 3, 2016 10:04:11 GMT
yes, them and all the other idiots out there who purport to be concerned with "public health" strangely they had a lab study completely binned despite spending $200million on it, alledgedly the study was to do with using air from different environments in conjunction with tobacco and vapour inhalations on live animals over period of 12 months, ok they super strengthed the levels of inhalant in the various enclosures to simulate a life time of smoking (I presume they used mice) they brerad the mice from clean stock in a lab down the road, shipped up enire breeding groups and split them up, one went in a tank full of city air from new York (40% diso fumes) one went in a tank full of tobacco smoke in "standard air" and another in newyork +tobacco smoke, another went in a tank of countryside air (zero pollutants) and then countryside air with tobacco smoke, and then they did them all with vapour (apparently this involved machine burning 20k fags and 20 gallons of e-liquid per tank and the results are alledged to have been that the pollution alone had the same number of cancerous formations as the polutioion + smoke whilst the countryside smoke had the same as the pure countryside whilst vapour units had less in both cases. now since it was deep-sixed without the report being produced one would question if this rumour is true or if the known fact that ever since the adoption of the motor vehicle cancer rates have gone up at a staggering rate despite the general populace having been smoking for more than 100 years at that point (in victorian England kids smoked and drank gin by the gallon yet few suffered the problems associated with "bad living", yes many died of consumption through weak immune systems[T.B. etc] but that's more likely down to lack of food) which begs the question if its the smoking that kills or other environmental secondary effects interacting with it, now i'm not suggesting smoking is good (clearly it clogs the lungs and is bad for us) but like all things it seems the public health teams formulated a plan to make money and didn't give two figs about the truth, we can see that in the way they have been attacking food groups and vaping but I find it interesting they would even undertake such research and then bin it rather than either fudge the figures or report them with some specialised spin, which rather begs the question of did they know all along that far from so called "bad living" being the problem it was agenda's like smothering the electric car industry that were causing the problems in an effort to keep population numbers down once someone figured out what a geometric expansion looked like (think early colonist setttlers in the USA who somehow expanded from a few hundred to a few hundred thousand in less than 50 years so much that they needed to murder the indigenous populace to continue finding lands to ocupy (and that's the numbers based on breeding rather than on more arriving, once transportation arrived the numbers truly exploded) sorry, is there a point in that wall of text??
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Post by nanotm on Feb 3, 2016 10:43:59 GMT
the duplicity of so called public health aficionado's, they know the truth but wont let that get in the way of their income stream, preferring to lie and ensure jobs and finances for the future
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Post by GunJack on Feb 3, 2016 11:22:42 GMT
the duplicity of so called public health aficionado's, they know the truth but wont let that get in the way of their income stream, preferring to lie and ensure jobs and finances for the future thanks, wasn't being funny, just very hard to pick points out of that... maybe a few more paragraphs needed?
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Post by djs on Feb 3, 2016 16:35:02 GMT
www.lung.org > Our Initiatives > Tobacco > Oversight & Regulation of Tobacco Products Statement on E-cigarettes The American Lung Association is concerned about the potential health consequences of electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes), as well as the unproven claims that they can be used to help smokers quit. Yes... and will this be similar to "unproven claims" that drinking water can improve hydration?
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Post by RangersBillyBoy on Feb 3, 2016 16:57:51 GMT
www.lung.org > Our Initiatives > Tobacco > Oversight & Regulation of Tobacco Products Statement on E-cigarettes The American Lung Association is concerned about the potential health consequences of electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes), as well as the unproven claims that they can be used to help smokers quit. Yes... and will this be similar to "unproven claims" that drinking water can improve hydration? Ooh djs you cynic. I've also heart the ALA still want further information before confirming if night follows day.
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Post by djs on Feb 3, 2016 21:23:24 GMT
I've also hear the ALA still want further information before confirming if night follows day. Very good! Night follows day.... only 95% sure on that as an alternative to day follows night, so best to disregard, you know just in case, like. I'm sure Carol Kirkwood says night follows day, that's good enough for me. I am at her mercy....
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Post by Perpetua on Feb 3, 2016 21:45:36 GMT
p.s you get a better view of the pic if you open the daily fail link under the image Just to show Mr DiCaprio in all his vaping glory GJ . . . . .
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Post by djs on Feb 3, 2016 21:55:01 GMT
I hear a certain US cig-a-like corporation management are crying down the pub as we speak. Blub away Blu.
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Post by GunJack on Feb 3, 2016 23:16:00 GMT
I hear a certain US cig-a-like corporation management are crying down the pub as we speak. Blub away Blu. oh, I DO hope so
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