adding nic too ready made liquid

[ragjoy]

looking for some advice, my wife has come off the ciggies again but is struggling a bit and is having the odd fag tut tut.
she is using 18mg and i want to increase the nic to 36mg, what amount should i add too 30ml of liquid.
im assuming this wont need steeping but not sure.
she is using rejuices menthol molatov cocktail, i will be making her something myself but want to get a few months into it before sorting her a recipe thats similar.
our method is used at 9 watts and our current setup wont allow much higher wattage.
thanks.
raggy...........

[Postmodern Smoking]

Nov 12, 2016 0:07:52 GMT ragjoy said:

looking for some advice, my wife has come off the ciggies again but is struggling a bit and is having the odd fag tut tut.
she is using 18mg and i want to increase the nic to 36mg, what amount should i add too 30ml of liquid.
im assuming this wont need steeping but not sure.
she is using rejuices menthol molatov cocktail, i will be making her something myself but want to get a few months into it before sorting her a recipe thats similar.
our method is used at 9 watts and our current setup wont allow much higher wattage.
thanks.
raggy...........

If you add 15ml of 72mg/ml nicotine base to 30ml of 18mg/ml e-liquid, then that would take it up to 36mg/ml.
It would however also dilute the flavour.

Ejuice me up calculator (Nic combine tool):

[ragjoy]

a big thank you

[jtc]

36mg!
Gawd I'd be careful as that may cause severe headaches if vaped too much

[DaveJ]

Nov 12, 2016 2:46:03 GMT jtc said:

36mg!
Gawd I'd be careful as that may cause severe headaches if vaped too much

Yeah it seems strong doesn't it?

But remember the OP saying "our method is used at 9 watts and our current setup wont allow much higher wattage"? I'm guessing their device of choice simply doesn't deliver as well as some. That, and his wife is having some apparent struggles using their current 18 mg/ml strength.

I certainly have heard of folk using far stronger nic ratios than I'm comfortable with and without apparent issue. In my early days, on EVODS @ 7 to 8 watts, I did have one setup running 36 mg/ml for "those times". Not regular use, mind, just occasional.

That said, my caution does agree with you. That is to say to ragjoy - please be careful with that sort of a step up in strength from what you are using now. Maybe consider some midway strength between your present 18 mg/ml and your suggested 36 mg/ml - and 24 mg/ml sounds like somewhere in the middle to me. And watch for any signs of overdoing the nic.

Certainly I wish her well - but I do agree with the need for some caution in how strong a nic ratio to try.

Maybe, too, it's not the nic she is having issue with, but something else from the smokes - the "WTA" element (*).


* - Whole Tobacco Alcoloids - other stuff in tobacco we ingest that some of us miss when withdrawing. Basically - ATOSIT, or All The Other Shit In Tobacco. 

[Perpetua]

Nov 12, 2016 3:31:27 GMT DaveJ said:

That said, my caution does agree with you. That is to say to ragjoy - please be careful with that sort of a step up in strength from what you are using now. Maybe consider some midway strength between your present 18 mg/ml and your suggested 36 mg/ml - and 24 mg/ml sounds like somewhere in the middle to me. And watch for any signs of overdoing the nic.

I would also very much agree with DaveJ and jtc . . . . to go from 18mg to 36mg in one, is quite a jump ragjoy. It's certainly not something I'd advise as you could very well end up defeating what you're trying to achieve by it, which would be a shame.

24mg would be a far better compromise strength for you both to see how that works for her at first.

Having the occasional ciggy isn't for me a ' crime ' whilst someone is adjusting to vaping from smoking - putting pressure on to ' quit ' completely, immediately doesn't work for everyone.

[ragjoy]

Thanks everyone, we are using in innokin t18 coils with there purpose built tanks, personally I've only in the past 4 months dropped to 18mg .
To be honest I was a bit inebriated last night so probably wasn't thinking too wisely, that said I and many here were using 36mg when we first started vaping 5 or 6 yrs back, but yes the delivery method was weaker.
I will as advised go for 24mg and yes I suppose there are many reasons for not being able to knock the ciggies on the head but we have been here at least half a dozen times over the past 6 years.
Could I ask for an adjustment on the formula to make 24mg from 18mg juice.
Thanks again, I am just trying to too give her the best chance of quitting.

[bluemagnum]

have a look at this raggy, very easy to use

www.vampirevape.co.uk/advanced-mixing-calculator

2.5ml @72mg will take it to 24

P.S, if you added 15ml as stated above, that would take it to 54mg, a bit strong!

[ragjoy]

Thanks bluemagnum.
That did seem a lot too add too the mix.
I will take a look at the link, thanks.
Strangely I still have a bottle of drum from 5 years back, still unused from ok smokey he the owner used this is 54mg, his regular vape at that time, always thought it was OTT.

[bluemagnum]

My wife uses the T18's as well @12w. She started @18mg but is down to 6.

[Postmodern Smoking]

Nov 12, 2016 8:54:33 GMT bluemagnum said:

have a look at this raggy, very easy to use

www.vampirevape.co.uk/advanced-mixing-calculator

2.5ml @72mg will take it to 24

P.S, if you added 15ml as stated above, that would take it to 54mg, a bit strong!

Again using the 'nic combine tool' from EJMU I'm getting a different answer to you bluemagnum .

If adding 3.8ml of 72mg/ml nic to 30ml of 18mg/ml e-liquid, it brings you up to 33.8ml of 24mg/ml nic




Are you allowing for the fact that the finished volume will be greater than 30ml?

[bluemagnum]

Yes, you're right.

[ragjoy]

So 3.8 of nic to 30ml or 1.3 ish to every 10ml

[Postmodern Smoking]

Nov 12, 2016 13:25:38 GMT ragjoy said:

So 3.8 of nic to 30ml or 1.3 ish to every 10ml

Yup, that's what EJMU nic combine calculator reckons.

Adding 1.3ml of 72mg/ml to 10ml of 18mg/ml will give you 11.3ml of 24.2mg/ml