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Post by richarduel on Nov 16, 2016 12:04:49 GMT
Hi everyone, Our research team at the University of East London is currently working on a Cancer Research UK funded project that explores parent/carer views of their children’s possible/actual use of e-cigarettes. Many of you have already completed our survey. With your help, we now have around 500 survey responses and this phase of the study is still ongoing. In the meantime, we have also been interviewing parents/carers about their views towards children using e-cigarettes. Right now, we are trying to interview UK parents/carers whose children use or have used e-cigarettes. The interviews are completely anonymous and confidential, and last around 1 hour. We are able to interview you face-to-face in London or via telephone. We can interview at any convenient time, including evenings and weekends. All interviewees are given/sent £15 love2shop vouchers following the interview. If this interests you and your child is aged 11-18 years old, please PM me or send me an email to r.greenhill@uel.ac.uk. Thanks for helping out! Richard Greenhill Research Assistant University of East London
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Post by lobeydosser on Nov 16, 2016 15:59:05 GMT
Our research team at the University of East London is currently working on a Cancer Research UK funded project that explores parent/carer views of their children’s possible/actual use of e-cigarettes.
As there is NOTHING in E-cigs that has been suggested to cause Cancer, I do not see why any "research team" would want to waste any monies researching the connection to a subject that does not exist.
This Topic sounds like a scare mongering scam!
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Post by richarduel on Nov 16, 2016 16:31:05 GMT
Hi lobeydosser, Thanks for your response. Cancer Research UK (CRUK) is simply the funder for the project - they fund a number of projects under 'tobacco control' and those projects investigating e-cigarettes are considered under 'harm reduction'. Nonetheless, CRUK have no role or involvement with our research beyond funding. Indeed, this particular project does not investigate cancer in any way, rather it investigates views towards vaping. I understand that there can be a tricky relationship between the vaping and research communities (and this is something that often comes up in the interviews). However, I'd like to assure you that we are not pursuing any hidden agendas here. On the other hand, the idea of the interviews is to get in-depth accounts of the nuanced views that many vapers and non-vapers hold. You might be interested in this discussion thread, where other forum members who have taken part in the research have confirmed their positive experiences: allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/62934/survey-parents-views-childrens-cigareThanks, Richard
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Post by mikedidthis on Nov 16, 2016 16:35:49 GMT
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Post by lobeydosser on Nov 16, 2016 16:59:11 GMT
I am really not interested in whether Richard Dual has been "approved" or not.
I am annoyed that a University is wasting monies of a Cancer Research UK funded project on a subject that has no proven links to Cancer. Indeed quite the opposite according to any bona fide research carried out on e-cigs so far.
As far as children and e-cigs are concerned, the general consensus is that if a child smokes cigarettes, they are better off on e-cigs. End of.
Then again, I am sure that there are quite a few thousand useless "research programs" that find their way into spending monies that could better spent elsewhere. Trying to link e-cigs to something mad, bad or dangerous is simply another in a long list.
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Post by mikedidthis on Nov 16, 2016 17:17:19 GMT
My comment was supposed to reassure anyone who viewed this thread and thought it maybe a scam, nothing more.
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Post by richarduel on Nov 16, 2016 17:19:09 GMT
mikedidthis - thanks for providing the link.
lobeydosser - again, I would reiterate that we're not trying to link e-cigs to anything mad, bad or dangerous. The role of Cancer Research UK is as a funder - that's where their involvement ends - and their funding remit goes beyond cancer-specific projects.
I am very aware that there are a number of researchers who do attempt to link e-cigarettes with a variety of negative outcomes. My opinion of these researchers is that they carry out ideological, flawed research, often with vested interests. Unfortunately, they serve to discredit those researchers that are working in a more honest and scientific way.
Lynne Dawkins, who is part of the research team, summarises her views in this video, which may be of interest to you:
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Post by lobeydosser on Nov 16, 2016 17:48:28 GMT
Cancer Research UK have many projects, advertising and Charity Shops all bringing in money for Cancer Research and I am sure that people who support these ventures are all under the impression that their hard earned money is going on precisely that.
Thanks to this topic, clearly that is not the case and indeed Cancer Research UK have more money than sense.
I, for one, will no longer be supporting CR UK.
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Post by striker42 on Nov 16, 2016 17:49:30 GMT
I agree with lobeydosser . Having read the posts on this thread and from the information provided, I've learned that cancer research UK is not really what it says. It will certainly make me reconsider any donations I would have made to them in future. If I make a donation to cancer research then I would have hoped that is where the money would he spent and not funding totally Irrelevant research and surveys. Ninja'd by lobeydosser
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Post by richarduel on Nov 16, 2016 18:01:42 GMT
I'm sorry to hear that you both now feel this way about Cancer Research UK.
The connection between Cancer Research UK and this sort of research is as follows: Cancer Research UK are interested in funding research that helps eliminate cancer. Smoking tobacco most certainly causes cancer. Therefore, research into e-cigarettes that may help people to stop smoking also acts as research into a device that may reduce cancer.
The link is indirect, but it is nonetheless a link.
So, rather than looking at e-cigarettes as a cancer-causing device, Cancer Research UK are looking at e-cigarettes as a device that may reduce cancer.
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Post by richarduel on Nov 16, 2016 18:03:15 GMT
Anyhow, the point is that there is no discussion of cancer in the interviews, nor will there be in the write-up.
The research is simply funded by a charity who feel that e-cigarettes may play a positive role in harm reduction.
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Post by striker42 on Nov 16, 2016 18:10:12 GMT
CRUK might have been better funding a survey or research into the members of the EU & UK parliaments who thought the TPD was a good idea in the quest to get people to quit tobacco thus reducing cancer statistics.
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Post by Perpetua on Nov 16, 2016 18:15:46 GMT
Thank you for providing this background information mikedidthis . . . . . richarduel did also seek and was granted further permission for the current study, in the interests of clarity. My comment was supposed to reassure anyone who viewed this thread and thought it maybe a scam, nothing more. Indeed, thank you again Mike.
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Post by lobeydosser on Nov 16, 2016 18:19:48 GMT
I am well aware of the fact that once I give my hard earned shekels to whatever charity, I have no control over how these shekels are to be spent.
However, as charities are not, as yet, forced to publish lists of where they spend their cash, it is up to the contributors to trust that their contributions will go to where it will do the most good.
I do not feel that either Cancer Research UK or East London University are spending our contributions where it will do any good at all.
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Post by GunJack on Nov 16, 2016 20:46:43 GMT
I think this sort of research can only be a positive in helping turn some of the "less supportive than could be" organisations into proper vaping supporters. I did the first part of the study and spoke to richarduel for a good hour and a half on the subject, and found him to be open, honest and more importantly totally open to the idea of vaping. I got my Mini-Gun#1 off fags by getting him vaping at 16, and I'd do the same again if I had to....I for one think these experiences need sharing, if it helps get more youngsters away from smoking.
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