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Post by thebishman on Jan 3, 2017 19:09:37 GMT
If your new to building then i certainly wouldnt be wanting to start off with all these fancy coils. But then that could be just me tbf its the baby beast rda normal coils are lost in it and they are using a regulated mod I wouldent norm tell peps to buy silly wire but silly wire is whats needed for these silly tanks I knock up my own fused Clapton and love it but most of the stuff you buy is twisted and that kinda defeats the point as flat gives you more room baby beast rba is simple to build and coil but you need big chunky coils for it to work well mine came with a pair of fused claptons fitted and all it needed was little tweaking to get them lined up and the hotspots out before wicking I run mine with 0.4mm normal kanthel. Great flavour and vapour without the need of the fancy pants wires lol
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Post by djs on Jan 3, 2017 19:11:55 GMT
Just buy some 26awg Kanthal. www.fasttech.com/products/2675200Unless you want to vape under 10 or over 50 watts, and mess around till your head explodes with thick wires (Clapton) then this is the stuff. It's the only wire product I've bought twice.
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Post by c1booth on Jan 3, 2017 19:12:14 GMT
I can't find these types of wire on steam engine
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Post by VapingBad on Jan 3, 2017 19:34:06 GMT
Just buy some 26awg Kanthal. www.fasttech.com/products/2675200Unless you want to vape under 10 or over 50 watts, and mess around till your head explodes with thick wires (Clapton) then this is the stuff. It's the only wire product I've bought twice. Good advice, but he has some 0.25 and twisting that is mega easy, similar to 0.4 in what type of coils you can build but with better flavour IMO. I wouldn't advise anyone to start with claptons, but simple twisted is no harder than single strand,
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Post by VapingBad on Jan 3, 2017 19:38:26 GMT
Well done, but unless you are trying to make a custom material profile to use temp protection in an Evolv mod it is of no use to you. Have a look in the guides section, I have done a SteamEngine guide there, unless you are making a mixed metal coil for an Evolv mod you are far better off using the power and heat flux to select a build.
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Post by decoy on Jan 3, 2017 19:40:31 GMT
tbf its the baby beast rda normal coils are lost in it and they are using a regulated mod I wouldent norm tell peps to buy silly wire but silly wire is whats needed for these silly tanks I knock up my own fused Clapton and love it but most of the stuff you buy is twisted and that kinda defeats the point as flat gives you more room baby beast rba is simple to build and coil but you need big chunky coils for it to work well mine came with a pair of fused claptons fitted and all it needed was little tweaking to get them lined up and the hotspots out before wicking I run mine with 0.4mm normal kanthel. Great flavour and vapour without the need of the fancy pants wires lol show off have to admit I got the tank because the rba can take silly wire and haven't used any normal wire in it yet I got some 0.7 ss I could try in it tbh the diff in vape between the fancy wires is not that noticeable you ether have a Clapton like vape or not(ie ramp up time then nuts) I think the op would be better off with smaller gauge stuff but ft don't have any
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Post by thebishman on Jan 3, 2017 19:49:40 GMT
I run mine with 0.4mm normal kanthel. Great flavour and vapour without the need of the fancy pants wires lol show off have to admit I got the tank because the rba can take silly wire and haven't used any normal wire in it yet I got some 0.7 ss I could try in it tbh the diff in vape between the fancy wires is not that noticeable you ether have a Clapton like vape or not(ie ramp up time then nuts) I think the op would be better off with smaller gauge stuff but ft don't have any Hey im not saying its the best build for the atty atall Just making a point to op that its not necessary to go all fancy when ya just starting out. Not tried ss yet..do you rate it?
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Post by c1booth on Jan 3, 2017 19:53:37 GMT
I've got .25 and .3 kanthal but can't seem to get a good build on steam engine on .3 with a 1.5mm diameter which I think is small its only 4 wraps per coil so there small all round
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Post by thebishman on Jan 3, 2017 20:01:45 GMT
I've got .25 and .3 kanthal but can't seem to get a good build on steam engine on .3 with a 1.5mm diameter which I think is small its only 4 wraps per coil so there small all round 0.3 will prob be a little thin but go for 7wraps per coil (to get surface area) will come out at a total of 1 ohm. 3mm size coil
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Post by VapingBad on Jan 3, 2017 20:06:43 GMT
Had a quick browse back thru the thread, and there is no need to shot for specific ohms other than avoiding the min and max for your mod, I believe you will have a better learning experience with a simple single coil, single or twisted 2 strand and leave claptons until you have the hang of that, something to look forward to rather that something that you will struggle with if there are problems. Dual coils are a little more difficult only because it is important to balance them, same length of wire for both or one will get hotter than the other. I find it helpful to start with to bit of wire exactly the same length so you can compare the length of the bits left over. Claptons are another ball game as they can get strange hot spots that are hard to diagnose if you don't have the experience build the simple coils. Again I would not worry about different wire metals it's the physical size and shape that is most important, though some people say they don't like the taste of some metals I don't fine much difference there myself.
Start with what power level you like to vape at now, allow for wanting to turn it up by say 25% and target that. Good luck, it is easier that it sounds, take you time, take small steps or you will be trying to learn too many thing at once and it can be confusing, and if us lot can do it I'm sure you will able able to
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Post by decoy on Jan 3, 2017 20:14:28 GMT
show off have to admit I got the tank because the rba can take silly wire and haven't used any normal wire in it yet I got some 0.7 ss I could try in it tbh the diff in vape between the fancy wires is not that noticeable you ether have a Clapton like vape or not(ie ramp up time then nuts) I think the op would be better off with smaller gauge stuff but ft don't have any Hey im not saying its the best build for the atty atall Just making a point to op that its not necessary to go all fancy when ya just starting out. Not tried ss yet..do you rate it? I'm using mostly 317L ss and its different ramps up a lot quicker and seems to need less power to hit its sweet spot flavour wize I cant realy say as I'm used to it now and tbh it subjective needless to say its very well suited for Clapton type coils loving it in tc with normal coils in mtl tanks and drippers get a roll of .3 and its just right for mtl tanks and twist it for lh tanks youll prob like it and I agree with yer you don't need to go all fancy but as the op is buying the wire premade its going to be the easiest way to get near shop coil performance only recommending the silly wire because they have a regulated mod so should be safe
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Post by c1booth on Jan 3, 2017 20:14:42 GMT
thanks im ordering some .4 kanthal with my attys from fast tech and going get some pre made captions to give them a try see if there worth all the hassle
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Post by thebishman on Jan 3, 2017 20:17:11 GMT
Hey im not saying its the best build for the atty atall Just making a point to op that its not necessary to go all fancy when ya just starting out. Not tried ss yet..do you rate it? I'm using mostly 317L ss and its different ramps up a lot quicker and seems to need less power to hit its sweet spot flavour wize I cant realy say as I'm used to it now and tbh it subjective needless to say its very well suited for Clapton type coils loving it in tc with normal coils in mtl tanks and drippers get a roll of .3 and its just right for mtl tanks and twist it for lh tanks youll prob like it and I agree with yer you don't need to go all fancy but as the op is buying the wire premade its going to be the easiest way to get near shop coil performance only recommending the silly wire because they have a regulated mod so should be safe Do you think it actually goves better flavour? Or is it only really for better battery life or ramp up time etc?
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Post by decoy on Jan 3, 2017 20:30:56 GMT
Do you think it actually goves better flavour? Or is it only really for better battery life or ramp up time etc? its defo different to kanthel I must prefer it as I don't use anything else now best part is you can use it in tc and watts just be gentle when dry burning and build at a higher ohm if using on a mech or it can be savage Its softer than kanthal I do seem to like it don't I
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