POLL: How much nicotine base have you stashed (if any)?

[jtc]

About 8 me thinks.
I have bought a small freezer dedicated to nic and I can't squeeze another bottle in

[DaveJ]

Feb 15, 2017 5:53:00 GMT jtc said:

About 8 me thinks.
I have bought a small freezer dedicated to nic and I can't squeeze another bottle in

Well, there's ya problem! 




* Wrong time of the year to order for us. I don't want any of my important stuffs sitting around any airports/cargo bays with our current temps.

[fisher]

Feb 15, 2017 6:58:18 GMT DaveJ said:

Feb 15, 2017 5:53:00 GMT jtc said:

About 8 me thinks.
I have bought a small freezer dedicated to nic and I can't squeeze another bottle in

Well, there's ya problem! 




* Wrong time of the year to order for us. I don't want any of my important stuffs sitting around any airports/cargo bays with our current temps.

 What sort of issues do you have over in Oz then Dave?

[DaveJ]

Feb 15, 2017 7:24:06 GMT fisher said:

Feb 15, 2017 6:58:18 GMT DaveJ said:

Well, there's ya problem! 




* Wrong time of the year to order for us. I don't want any of my important stuffs sitting around any airports/cargo bays with our current temps.

 What sort of issues do you have over in Oz then Dave?

Nothing too out of the ordinary as far as delivery times are concerned ... but when our daytime temps often hover around the high 30s and often give 40 a decent nudge, I'd rather my PG and VG based stuffs not hang around in open hot cargo sheds or, worse, in full sun for any period - especially when I want the stuff to last.

[fisher]

Feb 15, 2017 7:39:58 GMT DaveJ said:

Feb 15, 2017 7:24:06 GMT fisher said:

 What sort of issues do you have over in Oz then Dave?

Nothing too out of the ordinary as far as delivery times are concerned ... but when our daytime temps often hover around the high 30s and often give 40 a decent nudge, I'd rather my PG and VG based stuffs not hang around in open hot cargo sheds or, worse, in full sun for any period - especially when I want the stuff to last.

Sorry, I meant more in the way of restriction on what you can and can't get...nicotine , tanks sizes etc

[DaveJ]

Feb 15, 2017 7:44:53 GMT fisher said:

...Sorry, I meant more in the way of restriction on what you can and can't get...nicotine , tanks sizes etc

Oh, sorry - misunderstood.

For most states in Oz, basically - unless otherwise allowed for under tobacco exemptions (for smokes), or provided by the Therapeutic Goods Act (for gum, mist and patches or stuff prescribed by a doctor) - possession of any nic is illegal - for vaping or not. Even farm grade pesticide nic is banned, that was removed from hardware stores in, I think, 2009.

Whilst the ruling about nic is set by the Commonwealth (via poison/medicine scheduling), it is a state responsibility to enforce and police. Customs are Commonwealth and so far do not police importation of liquid nic. So we still, so far, receive our imported nicotine. But many of us uneasily watch the news for changes where Customes might be asked to police current state rules......

Each state sets it's own rules for hardware - and in Western Aust (where I am) the sale or supply of hardware is also illegal. Meaning, for example, it's against our law for me to give a neighbour a vape device. Possession of hardware is not yet against the rules here. So no vape shops here, the couple we did have were forced out a few years ago. Other states in Oz are not yet quite so draconian for hardware and some even have vape shops.

WE have no particular hardware restrictions as you do with the EU TPD - none of that 2 ml tank size or other rules. In some states it's OK, in ours it isn't. Simple, cut and dry. They just don't want us vaping.

To vape in Oz, and especially in West Oz, you must have an internet connection.

[snow]

I've got 2 litres in the freezer and according to my vapocalypse calculator thats enough for about 4 years @ 3mg so I'm probably not going to buy any more unless they start selling unsold stocks off close to the cut off date. 

[fisher]

Feb 15, 2017 8:03:42 GMT DaveJ said:

Feb 15, 2017 7:44:53 GMT fisher said:

...Sorry, I meant more in the way of restriction on what you can and can't get...nicotine , tanks sizes etc

Oh, sorry - misunderstood.

For most states in Oz, basically - unless otherwise allowed for under tobacco exemptions (for smokes), or provided by the Therapeutic Goods Act (for gum, mist and patches or stuff prescribed by a doctor) - possession of any nic is illegal - for vaping or not. Even farm grade pesticide nic is banned, that was removed from hardware stores in, I think, 2009.

Whilst the ruling about nic is set by the Commonwealth (via poison/medicine scheduling), it is a state responsibility to enforce and police. Customs are Commonwealth and so far do not police importation of liquid nic. So we still, so far, receive our imported nicotine. But many of us uneasily watch the news for changes where Customes might be asked to police current state rules......

Each state sets it's own rules for hardware - and in Western Aust (where I am) the sale or supply of hardware is also illegal. Meaning, for example, it's against our law for me to give a neighbour a vape device. Possession of hardware is not yet against the rules here. So no vape shops here, the couple we did have were forced out a few years ago. Other states in Oz are not yet quite so draconian for hardware and some even have vape shops.

WE have no particular hardware restrictions as you do with the EU TPD - none of that 2 ml tank size or other rules. In some states it's OK, in ours it isn't. Simple, cut and dry. They just don't want us vaping.

To vape in Oz, and especially in West Oz, you must have an internet connection.

  Thanks. It is really astonishing that the authorities ain so many countries cannot see the advantages in health that vaping offers over cigarettes,. Whether this is deliberate due to tax incomes from the tobacco products or more disgusting financial incentives...backhanders being dished out. Surely in the end people power will win, and the overwhelming evidence that is out there. Unfortunately the USA seems to keep providing lunatic stories that ecigs are worst than the combined diseases of the ages, and every negative story seems to carry much more impact than all the positive ones setting back the pro ecig case

[Postmodern Smoking]

Feb 15, 2017 1:31:20 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

3.5L stashed away no clue how long that'll last.
I mix at 3mg and use about 10-15ml of juice a day.

15-23 years!!

 

[DaveJ]

Feb 15, 2017 9:39:06 GMT fisher said:

Thanks. It is really astonishing that the authorities in so many countries cannot see the advantages in health that vaping offers over cigarettes,.

You are welcome and I agree completely.

Feb 15, 2017 9:39:06 GMT fisher said:

...
Surely in the end people power will win...

I think we all share that hope.


**
In the interests of the OP and original aim of this thread - nic base suitable for DIY types is soon to become hard to obtain in the UK and is always at risk here in Oz ... so make sure you stock up!

[chykensa]

2.5 litres - I mix for my OH, a mate and myself, and we are all down to 1.5mg, soon to be lowered to 1mg, so that should last us a few years! By then I'll either be on 0MG or something sensible will have happened (no, I'm not holding my breath!).
Might even get hold of another litre if funds allow before the start of May . . .

[goneforagasper]

I have 6 litres in my new dedicated freezer in garage. That would last me out but I mix for my son and his wife who are both on 12mg.
I don't lean on them to reduce because I would rather them continue at 12mg than go back on the stinkies

[cigeliquid]

it is not just the higher strength unflavoured nicotine that is going extinct after May 2017
A HUGE number of off the shelf nicotine containing e-liquids will vanish overnight!
90%+ of the choice of flavours and mg strengths available at this point in time are NOT going to gain TPD approved.
If you have a favourite ready made it might be worth stocking up in the next 3 months.

[Get Off My Cloud]

Feb 15, 2017 12:24:37 GMT cigeliquid said:

it is not just the higher strength unflavoured nicotine that is going extinct after May 2017
A HUGE number of off the shelf nicotine containing e-liquids will vanish overnight!
90%+ of the choice of flavours and mg strengths available at this point in time are NOT going to gain TPD approved.
If you have a favourite ready made it might be worth stocking up in the next 3 months.

Question:
Concentrates don't fall under the TPD do they, do 0mg eliquids fall under it?
If so could eliquid manufacturers just sell one shot concentrates in one bottle, VG/PG base in another bottle and nicotine shots in another and get around the TPD regs that way?

[djs]

I voted 2.1-3.0

At the moment, when my favourite juices run low, I am topping them up with VG and flavor, so some of my juice is almost entirely VG now and not far from zero nicotine too.

It's called "The science of self-delusion".... I am hoping I won't notice I am not-so-sneakily leaving the Nicotine level un-quantifiable.