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Post by cigeliquid on May 15, 2018 13:00:00 GMT
Well done
*bravo*The 5 years of money saved switching from fags should = a nice treat
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Post by cigeliquid on May 10, 2018 11:35:28 GMT
I tend to find that using an all PG stealth mix for over an hour or two badly upsets the skin on my lips
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Post by cigeliquid on May 2, 2018 12:15:08 GMT
Many are not old enough to remember the good old High street Tobacconist 1 or 2 of these great little shops who's business model was offering for sale a vast array of cigarettes ,pipes ,cigars ,lighters,matches and flavoured tobacco from around the world could be found in most towns around the UK. --- Up until 30-40 years ago these dedicated Tobacconist were the "vape shop of the twentieth century".
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Post by cigeliquid on Oct 9, 2017 14:17:21 GMT
Yep, a rip off. Even nic is not as expensive as we have become used to paying - it's only because it is "pharma grade" and in demand for vapers, but I'm sure in bulk it isn't a fraction of the cost, just like PG and VG which are basically industrial chemicals avaible for less than £1/litre. Don't forget it is widely used in huge quantities as a non-systemic insecticide, I don't think farmers are paying anywhere near as much as we do per litre If anything, the costly bit is the flavourant package, plus the invetment of time to formulate and maybe registration costs for TPD. That being said, those costs might be better recouped selling more juice at lower costs. Poundland manages to sell juice for £1 per 10 ml, some of which are not entirely horrible, so those "premium" juice need to be very special indeed to justify the £3-£5+ price tag. As has been revealed by the pre-TPD sales, most of them are not. You may be thinking of neonicotinoids as the use of Nicotine for industrial insecticide is banded and has been for a large number of years -- its use is even banded in India! "Pharma grade"e pure nicotine--- is a very very abused statement.
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Post by cigeliquid on Jul 23, 2017 12:36:56 GMT
Sorry but to me this looks and reads very much like how the tobacco industry debunked and slanted results. It would be very sad if the e-liquid market was to take a leaf from the same book in order to suggest a chemical might have been unfairly singled out.
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Post by cigeliquid on Jul 21, 2017 13:57:21 GMT
I have just restocked my large range of Hangsen DIY flavourings including The 50ml bottles of RY4 Tobacco essence. Freshly made Nicotine base can still be purchased on my web shop but sales are restricted to customers who's activity or intentions are not covered by TPD regulations.
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Post by cigeliquid on Jul 14, 2017 12:28:52 GMT
The rules on business to business sales of industrial size nicotine base* would now suggest that providing customers confirms to the seller they have a legitimate business reason to purchase industrial size and strength nicotine base the sale is legal --- The purchase would not require a VAT number or LTD For example: The purchase of nicotine base with the intention of selling or at some future point selling finished e-liquids to over 150 countries outside the EU / not covered by TPD-- would be a legitimate Business activity. However not to require some form of confirmation of business intent from all customers ( example "Tick box" ) would likely be seen as "offering to the Public" * 250ml would be seen as industrial size but 100ml or less might seen as to small
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Post by cigeliquid on Jul 14, 2017 11:45:13 GMT
Quick question, which is the best to use PG or VG nic base? I got PG 72mg nic base as I thought it would mix better than the heavier VG ni base... But just wondering what others use and why? Alsp is it ok to store in a dark cupboard or does it really have to be in the fridge or freezer? -- It is fine to use a day to day bottle providing 1 - keep it cool and out of sunlight = box or cupboard- 2 --keep the size of this bottle as small as is practical (50-100ml) it should hold no more 72mg than you expect to use in 3 months -6months Max 3 --The aim is to refill this small bottle when totally empty --- not top it up. The larger bottle that you use to refill the small bottle --- fridge = fine for a year or two.---- freezer = many years Stash --- keep in the freezer -- fine for many years 72mg PG nicotine base is a better choice than 72mg VG
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Post by cigeliquid on Jul 9, 2017 15:04:25 GMT
Do you own a belt sander!!!!!
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Post by cigeliquid on Jun 18, 2017 13:09:12 GMT
Cheers guys I didn't realise that after the TPD came in you could still get 72 mg bottles of nic, but looks like you can on that site...
There are a couple of companies flaunting what they consider loopholes.... only time will tell for how long. As most DIY mixers search forums for new recipes or flavour profiles many were very aware of the post 19th May changes. Polls in DIY sections of forums suggest that the requirements of around 90% are filled for the next 5-10 years This leaves a tiny number who were unaware and looking for nicotine base along with a small number who enter into DIY each year. This might present some problems over the coming years for business that have recently set up selling nicotine base. Reasoning: Unless a company has made a large investment in the equipment and training required to produce 72mg from pure nicotine allowing them to meet weekly sales they would most likely have purchased 72mg in 250-1000lt size batches for the bulk price reductions. Post may 19th Sales have fallen off a cliff in many case it may now take some of them years and years to sell off this volume of liquid.
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Post by cigeliquid on May 15, 2017 20:14:12 GMT
Almost out of stock of 100ml bottles of my nicotine base Unfortunately insisting on Vape grade EP/USP pure nicotine complete with a certificate of analysis by an independent, scientific, ethical and credible third party organisation before I part with my cash has somewhat priced me out of todays market!
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Post by cigeliquid on Apr 26, 2017 10:18:39 GMT
The next step in the evolution of e-liquids will involve the use of Nicotine salt base These e-liquids will offer a far better and faster rush/hit at a lower mg strength than e-liquids made from conventional pure nicotine.
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Post by cigeliquid on Apr 16, 2017 12:34:50 GMT
Not long now until 72mg/ml and nicotine, in more than 10ml bottles, will no longer be available in the UK/EU. Thanks for everyone who has participated in the poll so far... very interesting! Yes very interesting As this poll was conducted in the dedicated mixology section of this forum and received a total of 83 votes over a 2 month time span it sort of confirms how few people are into DIY ( i estimate a max of 30,000 with others estimating a possible 75,000 - 100,000 ) Of this relatively small number a little over 10% who took part in this poll might be on the hunt for nicotine base within the next four/five years. This suggest unless things change the remaining market for nicotine base over 20mg and in quantities larger than 10ml after TPD. is likely to be between 3000lt and 10,000 lt*-- that is assuming little or no up take of the 10ml 20mg bottles that will be freely available on most web sites. *This possible four year market totalling between 3000 lt- and 10,000 lt for DIY nicotine base still represents well over 10 x the volume of the entire DIY nicotine market back in 2011. but due to price falls far less in margins. ,
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Post by cigeliquid on Apr 15, 2017 17:34:06 GMT
Given that most on the DIY part of this and other forums are in reality part of the vast number of small scale self employed businesses making and supplying e-liquids for profit!-- a market that will be removed from them by the TPD I for one will not stand in the way of anyone intending to use my product ( nicotine base ) to make and then sell e-liquids to the remaining 160 countries around the world not covered by the TPD.
I also don't see the need for anything more complex than “I am a business customer engaged in non EU/ non TPD sales activity “ tick box. when purchasing “industrial size of nicotine base” * to run along side the I am over 18 tick box.
As i have always only ever directly manufactured Nicotine base as opposed to buying it in to sell on i don't see this as presenting to much of a problem.
*250ml and above
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Post by cigeliquid on Apr 1, 2017 16:21:28 GMT
Not quite the same as jumping on others recipes But a number also attempt to gain control of common words /product name use in the sale of e-liquids. For example applications have just been published for Trade marks in section 34 on the words Nic Shot ADD NIC SHOT Nic Shots nicshots Might not stand much chance as attempted ownership of the words/product name "nicotine shot" was recently turned down.
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