Quit smoking campaign Stoptober backs e-cigs for first time

[Ron]

www.bbc.com/news/health-41339790

[GunJack]

'Bout time too

it has brought the "but we don't know the long-term effects yet" brigade, and one woman on LBC this morning claiming vaping has given her a permanent heart arythmia(sp.?) according to her cardiologist, who has apparently seen this on many occasions???

[djs]

A few people bought this to my attention.

Good news overall.

Not quite sure what to make of this comment

NICE advises that patients should be told that there "is currently little evidence on the long-term benefits or harms of these products".

Something doesn't add up here. If you say a product is 95% safer, then surely the benefit is using a product that is.. um.. well.. 95% safer.

[domesticextremist]

Sept 21, 2017 17:19:41 GMT djs said:

A few people bought this to my attention.

Good news overall.

Not quite sure what to make of this comment

NICE advises that patients should be told that there "is currently little evidence on the long-term benefits or harms of these products".

Something doesn't add up here. If you say a product is 95% safer, then surely the benefit is using a product that is.. um.. well.. 95% safer.

Actually I'm glad NICE are still backing away.
The last thing we want is the busy-bodies getting involved because it's now part of the "stop smoking make-work scheme", quickly followed by the malign influence of the patch/gum/inhaler/other-things-that-don't-work-at-all brigade.
Remember, their jobs depend on smokers NOT stopping!

[Richard46]

Sept 21, 2017 19:16:24 GMT domesticextremist said:

Sept 21, 2017 17:19:41 GMT djs said:

A few people bought this to my attention.

Good news overall.

Not quite sure what to make of this comment Something doesn't add up here. If you say a product is 95% safer, then surely the benefit is using a product that is.. um.. well.. 95% safer.

Actually I'm glad NICE are still backing away.
The last thing we want is the busy-bodies getting involved because it's now part of the "stop smoking make-work scheme", quickly followed by the malign influence of the patch/gum/inhaler/other-things-that-don't-work-at-all brigade.
Remember, their jobs depend on smokers NOT stopping!

Ain't that the truth. The stop smoking industry is running scared and making a last ditch attempt to grab the coat tails of the vaping phenomenon which with a very few exceptions they have previously ignored or denigrated,

[djs]

Sept 21, 2017 19:50:50 GMT Richard46 said:

The stop smoking industry is running scared and making a last ditch attempt to grab the coat tails of the vaping phenomenon which with a very few exceptions they have previously ignored or denigrated

Hear, hear!

(or whatever spelling).

[gill2009]

Sept 21, 2017 20:17:09 GMT djs said:

Sept 21, 2017 19:50:50 GMT Richard46 said:

The stop smoking industry is running scared and making a last ditch attempt to grab the coat tails of the vaping phenomenon which with a very few exceptions they have previously ignored or denigrated

Hear, hear!

(or whatever spelling).

  djs...ditto