Science and Technology Committee, House of Commons 09/01/18

[Postmodern Smoking]

[lobeydosser]

Very very interesting.

I watched this right through to the end.

[lobeydosser]

Have got used to the usual clap trap we hear from the Media, this committee is a breath of fresh air in an otherwise complicated world.

Some of their facts blow the usual statistics out of the water.

If future e-cigs use is adopted by the NHS and Government alike, Vaping has a happy future indeed.

[Brambles]

Thanks for highlighting this Dave (Postmodern Smoking), really interesting. As lobeydosser has said - breath of fresh air.

[lobeydosser]

One of the facts that came out in this interview was when the experts were questioned about the 5% safety provision that the NHS had put on Ecigs compared to Smoking ordinary cigarettes.
All 3 reckoned that the 5% should be reduced to 0.5%.
In otherwords they reckoned that Ecigs were 99.5% safer than Cigarettes,

They also reckon that the way Britain treats Vaping in the future will have a knock on effect on other countries.

[Postmodern Smoking]

Jan 15, 2018 21:00:48 GMT lobeydosser said:

One of the facts that came out in this interview was when the experts were questioned about the 5% safety provision that the NHS had put on Ecigs compared to Smoking ordinary cigarettes.
All 3 reckoned that the 5% should be reduced to 0.5%.
In otherwords they reckoned that Ecigs were 99.5% safer than Cigarettes,

They also reckon that the way Britain treats Vaping in the future will have a knock on effect on other countries.

I must have missed that bit... I may have to rewatch to hear it for myself! 

[lobeydosser]

Like much of the comments that were made during the interviews, it was not in a direct answer to a question but more of an "aside" comment when they were talking about percentages that other people, namely the NHS, put on how safe they think E-cigs are over Smoking.

If I remember correctly, it was the guy sitting on the left who leans over to the right to say about the 0.5%. However the other two experts nodded in agreement at the 0.5% figure.

I am used to people stating that 95% or such an such a high figure percentage. So it took me a few minutes to realise that he was talking about a fraction of a percentage.

The fact that 6 different "experts" were called upon to answer questions about E-cigs and Vaping to a parliamentary committee and all found in favour of the said equipment, says a lot for the thinking of our governing bodies.

[Postmodern Smoking]

Jan 16, 2018 0:29:51 GMT lobeydosser said:

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The fact that 6 different "experts" were called upon to answer questions about E-cigs and Vaping to a parliamentary committee and all found in favour of the said equipment, says a lot for the thinking of our governing bodies.

Yes, quite surprisingly refreshing and nice to see that they had invited key people to give 'expert' (and positive) evidence; when some countries (sadly) are facing such a struggle... amidst the growing evidence in support of e-cigs as a low risk harm reduction alternative to burnt tobacco.

[lobeydosser]

The fact that 2 of the experts were from European Countries, one from Italy and the other, I think, from Germany, meant that they had more diverse opinions and a wider picture of the vaping fraternity.

[lobeydosser]

I am really surprised that not more Vapers have picked up on what was being discussed by this committee and what the implications of that discussion lead to.

A rethink on the TDP in regard to the future of how Britain regards its attitude to Vaping?

A relaxation of the regulation banning the advertising of Vaping Products by the Media?

The promotion of Vaping by the NHS?

This House of Commons Committee has the power to have wide ranging influences in many areas that could effect the future of the Vaping Fraternity in the UK.
And, once introduced in the UK, it could influence how other countries follow.

[*-SARIN-*]

Jan 18, 2018 17:06:45 GMT lobeydosser said:

I am really surprised that not more Vapers have picked up on what was being discussed by this committee and what the implications of that discussion lead to.

A rethink on the TDP in regard to the future of how Britain regards its attitude to Vaping?

A relaxation of the regulation banning the advertising of Vaping Products by the Media?

The promotion of Vaping by the NHS?

This House of Commons Committee has the power to have wide ranging influences in many areas that could effect the future of the Vaping Fraternity in the UK.
And, once introduced in the UK, it could influence how other countries follow.

The Tobacco Lobby will be going into overdrive.

[VapingBad]

Jan 18, 2018 17:06:45 GMT lobeydosser said:

I am really surprised that not more Vapers have picked up on what was being discussed by this committee and what the implications of that discussion lead to.

A rethink on the TDP in regard to the future of how Britain regards its attitude to Vaping?

A relaxation of the regulation banning the advertising of Vaping Products by the Media?

The promotion of Vaping by the NHS?

This House of Commons Committee has the power to have wide ranging influences in many areas that could effect the future of the Vaping Fraternity in the UK.
And, once introduced in the UK, it could influence how other countries follow.

Also many years down the line, after Brexit the next five to ten years will be focusing basic things like trade deals and no politico will be interested on saving smokers lives.