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I can understand your frustration Russell, but if ECCA is funded by a third party business (with a vested interest) it is not a consumer association but a trade association.

ECITA was accused of questionable practices in recent history and you do not want something like that for an organisation that is supposed to champion the end-user.

I can imagine with so much uncertainty, about the future of ecigs, you will have an uphill struggle raising the profile of ECCA.

I believe that to build a Consumers Association it needs to be an independent, non-profit, non-governmental organisation, registered with charitable status and working on behalf of the customers.

If you look of at the early days of 'Which?' it built some of its funding on subscriptions from customers:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Which%3F

Could an idustrious person make tanks from pyrex tubing?
www.tracysworkshop.com/p-15899-corning-pyrex-glass-tubing-heavy-wall-thickness.aspx?currencysetting=gbp&affiliateid=10051
..Im not sure how difficult it is to work with pyrex though ???

I`ll watch this space as I`ll probably end up needing one as a spare or until my pc tank crack.

Thanks for the detective work Macca

The VGO2 has a KR808D1 fitting I think.
For that you`ll need a KR808D1 - ego adapter.

901/808D to eGo Adapter @ libertyflights
www.liberty-flights.co.uk/product.asp?id=35

'...result in chargers being brought...'

Put my name down for one as I could do with a backup for my tr001

I think you`re right giles. Those regulations are 10 years old, I cannot see that they will stay that way.

Our American cousins has their ejuice classified as a tobacco product rather than medicinal.

If/when that happens we`ll get heavy tax and regulations.

The other part of it is if you process tobacco products you are liable to pay tobacco duties..and as such there are extra regulations because of it.

Its a shame as I enjoy my eltorro but surely this is a processed tobacco product?

Im not sure if this is suited for the general forum or media (mods please move this as you see fit).

Anyways, Ive been doing alot more digging and reading about tobacco regulation and what with the next MHRA report sometime (spring?) next year:- well to cut to the chase it would appear that an achilles-heel is the classification of tobacco products.

"tobacco product" means a product made wholly or partly of tobacco for the purpose of being smoked, sniffed, sucked or chewed, but does not include a product which is made partly of tobacco and is intended to help a consumer of tobacco products to stop or reduce his use of such products.

The definition seems a bit flakey and allows big pharma to market their NRT products as 'non-tobacco products', whilst on the flip-side it is a catchall for ejuice.

Im guessing that any vendor who uses in-house steeps/extractions/WTA etc also falls under HM Customs:

2.10 Must I pay duty on tobacco products which I have made myself from raw tobacco leaf I have purchased?
Yes. You must pay the duty on any tobacco products that you make from unprocessed tobacco which you have purchased. This applies whether the tobacco products are intended for sale or solely for your own consumption. Anyone intending to manufacture tobacco products must comply with the conditions set out in this Notice. You should contact us using the contact information in paragraph 1.5 of the Notice before you begin manufacturing.


sources:
www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1991/1530/made
customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageVAT_ShowContent&propertyType=document&columns=1&id=HMCE_CL_000268#P129_16687


Thoughts?

Tobacco C - Inawera Flavors

Recommended mixed @3% . Tested mixes @3%/5%/10% and found it best at @10%.

Appearance: Caramel Brown. Price: around £1 per 5ml From: www.inaweraflavours.com & 4drops.co.uk

This reminds me of a light RY4 flavour. Tobacco with a hint of caramel, vanilla and a little hazelnut. Makes a nice vape but seems to be missing a little something. This would benefit from adding a little caramel or dulche.

Rating: 7/10