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Post by digicig on Jul 8, 2013 23:28:21 GMT
Well C9 didn't have any and couldn't order direct from Super T as they wouldn't accept me debit card So if anyone has a neglected Kicklet i'd be mos appreciative
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Post by digicig on Jul 8, 2013 23:26:09 GMT
Well 2 - any more would be Treble, Quadruple, Quintiple etc
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Post by digicig on Jul 8, 2013 22:49:47 GMT
Taking the Eurostar with the VTTV folk - courtesy of the 'sponsors' - and hopefully the T3s will be an improvement
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Post by digicig on Jul 8, 2013 22:04:43 GMT
They're paid to do a job - and in Hull at the mo good for them for having one Only one of the 2 IMHO looked like someone who was genuinely Healthy - another part of the job description one would hope for but rarely delivered apparently
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Post by digicig on Jul 8, 2013 21:34:55 GMT
I have one of the Terminators due - but nothing to compare it too - aside from Todds 'opinion' of it - which amusing thought it was didnt actually extend to trying it before getting the angle grinder out LoL
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Post by digicig on Jul 8, 2013 21:32:44 GMT
Thanks Sammy TBH it was as i suspected - nothing more - nothing less - just wanted to have it confirmed from 'the horses mouth'. The accusation that i obviously got paid from ecigs and that's why i knew so much was the biggest disappointment - they get paid by the NHS so i'd hoped they would have done their research and be more aware of the genearl failure rate of NRT and be looking into alternatives
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Post by digicig on Jul 8, 2013 20:52:26 GMT
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Post by digicig on Jul 8, 2013 20:38:06 GMT
TBH the reason i asked is to find out what the general level of 'Education' and 'Knowledge' about ecigs was amongst the 'lower echelons' of the NHS 'Health Promotion' team was - so now i know and thought i'd share
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Post by digicig on Jul 8, 2013 20:01:55 GMT
Ah - went to Uni as a 'mature student at 25, when it was still 'free-ish' (give or take student loans ) and managed to get an education - which i did do in-spite of the course, rather than because of it
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Post by digicig on Jul 8, 2013 19:49:54 GMT
I'd suggest the 'Health Promoters' are selected more by their ability to 'Follow the Rules' than to question them - at all, ever!
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Post by digicig on Jul 8, 2013 17:17:43 GMT
I think NHS 2 was suggesting that NRT is the way to get rid of the addiction - not that NRT was nicotine free (will edit the original post to include this)
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Post by digicig on Jul 8, 2013 15:41:47 GMT
GLV also have regular FB and ECF competitions too Good Luck
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Post by digicig on Jul 8, 2013 15:40:42 GMT
As i was walking to me local shopping centre (St Stephen's for thems in 'Ull) i stopped a couple of NHS 'Health Promoters' with a quick question: Me - "Excuse me Ladies - Ecigarettes - good or bad?" "Official response or personal?" Me - "Both please" NHS 1 - "Official repsonse - don't use them - use NRT! Personally what ever works to get you off smoking - but you're probably better off with NRT" NHS 2 - "Well you're better off without the 4k+ chemicals in cigarettes but you're just swapping one addiction for another" Me "But i'm not swapping addictions - it's the same addiction to nicotine?" NHS 2 - "Exactly so you're better off with NRT!" (I think NHS 2 was suggesting that NRT is the way to get rid of the addiction - not that NRT was nicotine free ) Me - "Nicotine as a substance in lower dosages, such as ecigs and NRT, is about as harmful as caffeine according to researchers" NHS 2 - "But not as good as being off nicotine altogether - which is NRT!" Me - "Gov't and NHS statistics show that NRT doesn't work tho - with a less than 5% success rate over a 12 month period - whereas there are studies and enough testimonials to suggest that folk who swap to Vaping stay off tobacco for good!" NHS 2 - "Well it's obvious you get paid to promote ecigarettes then!" Me - "I provide information on ecigarettes to smokers, Vapers and the Vape-curious for free - and have done my research because it's under threat form the EU, and the Government - mainly due to the Big Pharmaceutical industry who make as much money from smokers as the Big Tobacco companies - NRT is a fraction of their income when compared to treating those with smoking realted diseases - including Chemo-therapy!" NHS 1 - "i don't need to know all the statistics ans science to be able to do my job well - and i do!" Sort of the point where i gave up! TBH it didn't sound like either of the ladies had been to school beyond 16 and the only information that had to give was what the NHS provided - and doing extra research on their own time wasn't likely to happen. Perhaps that's one of the reasons the NHS choose such folk - they will just provide the information they're spoon fed without question by the 'Health Authority' they work for
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Post by digicig on Jul 8, 2013 14:01:28 GMT
And i'm lucky to consider fellow members of UKV, AAEC and PotV as me friends and family
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Post by digicig on Jul 8, 2013 13:15:46 GMT
Waiting on me 1st purchase - should be here tomorrow - well hope so cos off to Brussels Wednesday and wanted to try the T3s out on the journey
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