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Hi guys,

Thanks for all the posts. I don't know how to say this without sounding offensive, so apologies in advance, that is not my intention.

As a smoker I would never dream of sitting and rolling my own ciggies. I found people who did that were akin to those who brew their own beer or make their own wine.

I'm just a normal working class bloke, who used to nip into the corner shop or Tesco express on his way to or from work and buy my fags. Convenience, not the cheapest I know, but it suited me.

By now using e cigs I will be saving money, which is great, but that isn't why I'm switching from tobacco to vapour; it's mainly for health reasons.

Is this forum really just for people who fill their own cartos or smoke something that looks like a fountain pen or a gazzoo?

I would feel silly puffing on any device that didn't look like a tobacco ciggy. Am I the only one on here who thinks that way?

Sorry if that view rubs some of you up the wrong way, I just find it incredible that the UK "brands" like e lites, vip, nicolites and others all seem to have different threads on their cartos or slightly different diameters - 8.5 or 9.0 or 9.2 or 9.3 ???

I'm in engineering and find standardisation is the best way forward, but these ciggy companies all seem to want the monopoly >

I'm trying hard not to go back to tobacco and buying disposables at a local convenience store until I can either find cheap carts that fit my e lite battery or a ciggy company with products of equal quality but cheaper cost.

I live in hope

Thanks for the advice and the web links.

One forum question - is there a way that when someone posts on this thread I get an email to let me know? I've seen this done on other forums I've used in the past and it seems to work well.

This next statement might make me instantly unpopular with the vast majority of you forum regulars; but here goes

I really can't be bothered farting around with refilling my own cartos. Some people buy wine making kits from Boots, whilst others just buy the real McCoy off the shelves at the supermarket booze section. I buy my booze at the supermarket and I want to buy my cartos somewhere cheap too. Not necessarily a supermarket, but ideally an e cig website that does cartos that are compatable with E Lites, but a lot cheaper.

Does anyone know of a site like that?