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yea this seems pretty dodgy, the battery could have shorted and that can be dangerous, besides its not as if its such a pricey item to replace, nor is the charger. Its also way less common than atty/carto problems too.

oh dear hehe, I like the way the ufs looks even though at the moment the ody might be more what i'm after. yea watching videos on the ufs it seems like quite an intricate design, just when I was looking at the "show your gg pictures" on ecf they look really cool on the ggts all polished up
especially the "modfather's" crazy collection, maybe i can dig out my old 510 mini stick batteries and give them a polish some time hehe

Looks like they improved the lavatube in the v2 just released, theres no more top section, looks like its all built into the tube, also the body is much thicker so it should be able to take some falls like the provari does. Maybe they realised having that top section separate was a weakness and addressed it

good point about the models shos - they do use the 18650s in battery packs i've seen, theres some good deals online tho if the shops r too expensive or dont have a big selection.
They have some nice chargers at some of the racing car shops tho seen some for £100s with all sorts of functions

Thats true in many cases, but if say you're buying direct from the manufacturer or from an offshore wholesaler, it should be the same but cheaper, most of the products are from china and are much cheaper, but thing is theres a tonne of knock offs, even the originals dont have great qc

Thing is they look like the original lavatube, theres many fakes out there that have some differences. I guess its not hard for the manufacturers to clone it completely though, but the original one which has been around for a while can last a fair while, maybe it cant withstand too many falls or maybe 50% of them might have only a tiny amount of glue or solder compared to the rest, but tbh with the new version out its definitely going to mean the older one will drop in price.
The kit version comes with a cheap battery so wouldnt expect the battery to maybe be as reliable as others, and some kits do come with fairly suspect looking chargers
also they usually sell it for a fair bit higher in line with other vendors, only reduced it temporarily by a high %, other uk shops are also reducing their lavatubes and might have big reductions on all their items, so it seems to be a problem with fake lavatubes being sold more than anything.

edit: or maybe if its a real one, then theres might not always be good batches going around of them, and in that case the manufacturer should fix the problem, however they dont always.

ah yea read a bit about it on ukv, makes sense now!
will be interesting to see if they try and limit all their products to only sell on their sites in the future. I think theyll realise itll mean a big drop in sales quite quickly, anyways theresa tonne of knock offs of the other stuff everywhere already