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Post by vapee on Aug 22, 2015 15:25:09 GMT
I believe you can get patches, gums etc with or without a prescription so in theory there can be ecigs on prescription and without too. With the amount spent by the nhs/tax payers on the current nrt products I doubt it'll cos them that much to offer ecigs on prescription instead if thats a worry, they'll just be less patches, gums etc bought instead by the nhs. Also if everyone switched to ecigs lets say through a prescription, sure that could cost extra in tax but then the nhs would have to spend less treating diseases so financially there can't be an argument made against it. Whether the nhs approved ecigs actually work is another matter though and should be the main issue, but it could be a good idea to have both on prescription and advanced current devices sold freely side by side to help people switch.
If their idea is just to have ecigs on prescriptions then they may aswell not bother as that'll force some people who use ecigs to go back to smoking in many cases or have to get around it anyway. It also depends on the devices they want to offer, if it's going to be the same type that was around 6 years ago with the atty and carts that would overheat and not wick properly most of the time then that'll be of no use lol, An ego with evod at least could be of some use to some starting. Also flavourings are the biggest thing, if they're available in just menthol and some random tobacco flavour no matter what device it won't appeal to everyone.
The ideal scenario would be to have a few setups available on prescription, even an istick 30 + subtank or protank can be made cheap if bought in millions of units, then have a range of flavours to go with it, that can be tested to some degree just to make sure theyre relatively safe, but claiming itll need years of testing for each flavour and alot of cash is a myth, all thats needed is to firstly make sure its just pg, vg, nic, flavouring at first that should be quick and cheap to do then maybe some further testing on the flavour, but ultimately its to reduce harm not make it 100% safe. The amount of medicines available on the nhs that are more harmful than nicotine or flavourings is huge anyway. Almost every drug you can think of its used in medicine somehow too.
For our current devices just making sure the manufacturer does some testing on electrical devices like other electronics sold in the UK would be good enough if its not being done most of the time already, and some standards to keep eliquids within a safe range which should also not cost much, they could even setup labs and subsidise the costs of testing liquids. I think some of those huge figures for testing each liquid individually are firstly over inflated, secondly include a huge amount of waste involved which would probably just end up in peoples pockets that it shouldn't and thirdly are way over the top than any other type of testing and almost assume that analogues are 100% safe and therefore eliquids have to be too.
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Post by vapee on Aug 20, 2015 15:14:07 GMT
Yea that sounds ridiculous that they'd even mention that, I mean theres been millions of smokers who gave up smoking but smoked again a while later, but then having to be concerned about a few cases where people may have taken up vaping instead, basically if vaping was not around they would have taken up smoking again instead.
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Post by vapee on Aug 20, 2015 15:01:16 GMT
It can be vaped but its dangerous as alcohol poisoning can happen, I think eventually something new will replace alcohol completely, when understanding of the brain is much more precise, something that can successfully target particular regions and not overload them like drugs do can be much safer then and not cause as much problems as alcohol hits all sorts of regions of the body too. At the moment I think they're far off as even certain drugs are not fully understood how they affect the brain entirely. At some point they will perfect the formula for mind altering substances to not cause as much of the problems that they do now but I think that technology is way off hehe
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Post by vapee on Aug 19, 2015 1:21:37 GMT
At the end of the article "Sales of the vaping devices has slowed from its 2011 peak after some experts and lobby groups suggested they were possibly being taken up by youngsters." maybe it was written in 2012, even then doesn't make sense heh
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Post by vapee on Aug 17, 2015 22:49:26 GMT
I guess it's only a matter of time before they try something like that on with us in the UK too. Out of interest, has anyone thought ahead and got any ideas on a way that we can still natter about the things that matter (oo, see what I did there - accidentally!) if the brown stuff hits the whirly thing? Theres forums out there where people actually review analogues and talk about cigs lol not sure how much there is to talk about them but somehow theres people discussing them so would be weird to keep them going and try to close down ecig ones but I guess anythings possible. I don't think they'll be much issue in the UK with that though, unless they allow discussion but not sales or links to sales, theres always going to be international forums around though, I'd think facebook might go after groups before forums have issues though as facebook seems to close groups n pages whenever they feel like it heh.
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Post by vapee on Aug 17, 2015 22:40:48 GMT
I saw this too, wouldn't surprise me if Portugal followed suit Would be crazy if they did there too as class A drugs are decriminalized apparently.
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Post by vapee on Aug 17, 2015 17:15:55 GMT
thats one giant coil head! looks like it'll take a while to rebuild the heads but it might be easier than rebuilding the tfv4 ones with those individual positive pins at the bottom. Seems all the coil heads these days use spaced coils though, wonder if any are made like macro/micro coils pressed together.
havn't tried the tfv4 yet though but it looks like it has many options including the rebuildable head and an easy mechanism at the top to refill.
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Post by vapee on Aug 16, 2015 16:05:00 GMT
v4's gonna be vape-da-loo
really looks much easier to do builds on than some other rebuildables these days, finding it tricky to cut the wire close to the post too.
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Post by vapee on Aug 16, 2015 10:10:31 GMT
I got my mini vf recently from a similar promo, but it wasn't in very high demand or anything heh, they did have the full size vf at around $22 or so which would have been great but I missed it. I think because theres 50 of each, it might be easier to secure the order for it.
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Post by vapee on Aug 13, 2015 11:06:03 GMT
The d2 looks really nice, much smaller than it looks, apparently no step down though so vaping at lower watts is not possible at certain resistances, I think the sub box had something similar that was going to change with new batches, but not an issue at the average watts the mods are used with though.
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Post by vapee on Aug 12, 2015 18:50:07 GMT
Hi, just posting my experiences so far with GearBest. Been getting various ecig and other products from them for the last half a year and so far seems to be very good. The main thing at first that attracted me were some great prices on ecig mods and rta's they had that I couldn't find elsewhere like the goblin. It seems they have been adding alot of authentic mods, rtas, rdas since then too as soon as they are announced usually. They arrived fairly quickly (around 2-3 weeks) which is similar to other shops in China. I just went for regular shipping in this case, but they have faster shipping too if you wanted and some other free shipping choices that might be faster than others. I decided to check out some non ecig stuff too as they have good pricing on watches, phone accessories, sun glasses, battery chargers etc. Most items were sent fast, some took a bit to process or send out, but they eventually were sent without me having to ask whats going on or anything. I've experienced similar waiting times on other sites for ecigs in China too, might be to do with stock levels sometimes of the item, but as long as its not something needed urgently its not an issue. Most were processed within a few days of ordering however. I went for 1 pre order item too that I knew would take a while to be ready to ship, as in other pre order situations there can be delays and there was a slight delay so they did email me about this asking whether I wanted to keep waiting or cancel and receive some free gb points in addition to the refund. I eventually decided to cancel as I was on the fence about the item anyway and was offered an option to keep the cash in the gb wallet or back to paypal. I chose to keep in the gb wallet as I did have another item in mind to buy right after and was also offered more points for keeping the cash in the gb wallet. The cs reps were fairly quick to reply even though I was most likely replying during the day gmt when theyre off work. Usually the case with other shops in China too though. I found out that if you go for the option of keeping cash in the gb wallet the refund processes quicker. I also found out that they offer 5x the amount of points you would get otherwise which can be used against your next purchase too like the points you usually receive. It seems there were issues with pre orders getting really long delays for some other items but I believe they have stopped doing pre orders like that and instead have an ability to sign up for an "Arrival Notice" instead which means you have not paid for the item up front. So its good that they're working on improving the system all the time too as well as bringing the latest items. I noticed the special promotions too can be tricky to get if theres high demand and only a few at that promotional price, I found that as long as the price was the promotion one in checkout it was the reflected price then in the next page in paypal before it asks you to pay now through that system. I think they changed that system of promotions recently to make it easier to see how many items are left as there was a counter in the mini vf promo showing how many left of each colour. I think maybe on very popular items there can be slight delays in the database sometimes so the last few people may not be able to buy the item as its already been purchased but thats been a similar thing I noticed on other promotions and low quantity items in the uk sometimes too. Another thing I ordered was the kbox at the time with the promo code that was shared everywhere, the price did seem extremely low for an item that was only released a few months before but was worth trying for anyway. Ended up being an old coupon that maybe reduced by the wrong % so got a message saying it needed to be refunded which went smoothly within a day or so. I've experienced similar things even in large uk companies where a mis price has led to the order being cancelled. I think sometimes the price is kept but not always. Luckily theres been good promotions afterwards so could still get some bargains. So in summary the experiences have been good, similar waiting like ordering from other China vendors too, but thats the trade off in the low prices vs buying locally. Also the waiting time for orders to be processed has been similar too for some items only. Best thing is be ready to wait a bit and rather than 1 large order in 1 go maybe make smaller ones spread over time, that way the items will arrive one after the other There were some issues in the past with the delivery only being available as standard or expedited but now theres several free delivery options too to choose from that can take 7-10 days to europe or up to 2 weeks to the USA, also theres local warehouses for some items that'll speed up delivery and is worth checking out. Its good that gearbest are providing some competition in the ecig space especially when you want to try out various mods, rtas, rdas etc, and are not sure which one you want to use all the time and would rather pay less to do so and also if you can't find the items available locally.
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Post by vapee on Aug 12, 2015 16:54:57 GMT
Maybe the only ones that are fully off are the mech mods when in a locked position, I guess a good precaution is taking off an atty though but it certainly wears the 510 down heh
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Post by vapee on Aug 12, 2015 16:13:32 GMT
Yea its a bit strange really as switching it off is basically locking it too, I think the isticks switch off too, not sure about all of them, the older innokins too, maybe new ones also. The mvp 2 was tricky sometimes to switch off though, it would fire if not pressed 5x quickly. Wonder whether the mod switching off is safer than having it locked or maybe its the same thing. If you lock it......it still uses the batteries for monitoring I think. I had one mod totally drain 2 batteries to the point I thought they were goners..............but managed to resurrect them. It was locked.....and in sleep mode but I forgot to take the batteries out when I went on holiday. Wow! yea with many mods it can be hard to keep track of everything too, I think thats what empties batteries on old phones too, some kind of monitoring that goes on even when theyre switched off, though it could be just old batts heh
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Post by vapee on Aug 12, 2015 16:00:55 GMT
Nice find! theres some apparently close to sell by or just expired dekang too for £1 per 30ml! Not sure how long dekang usually puts their expiry date on the bottles, some give it a year but some write 2 years also, still the capellas are a nice price.
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Post by vapee on Aug 12, 2015 15:54:59 GMT
Yea its a bit strange really as switching it off is basically locking it too, I think the isticks switch off too, not sure about all of them, the older innokins too, maybe new ones also. The mvp 2 was tricky sometimes to switch off though, it would fire if not pressed 5x quickly. Wonder whether the mod switching off is safer than having it locked or maybe its the same thing.
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