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Post by MarkS on Jun 22, 2014 16:48:18 GMT
I'm another one who just doesn't get what all the fuss is about with Red Astaire. Personally I think High Voltage is better for that 'tunes' type of juice.
Melipona & Jack The Ripple are two others I'm not a fan of either.
Vamp Vape is nice but i quickly get bored of it.
I do like Afro Dizziac but for some reason the concentrate doesn't taste the same as the pre-made I tried last year. The pre-made had a much more cough candy taste to it, where as the concentrate tastes more of herbs to me. Not unpleasant but the pre-made was better.
I also like Hermano Rubio, but again get bored of it quickly.
At vapefest last year I bought 10 concentrates and overall I'm unimpressed bordering on disappointed.
I just find them weak even at high percentages and not very good value for money.
I'm in the minority though as most people rave about them.
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Post by MarkS on Jun 22, 2014 8:16:28 GMT
I buy nic base from vapersemporium.co.uk/index.php but also look out for bargains and group buys. I buy my VG from boots and just bought 5 litres of PG from ebay. In terms of whether you want PG or VG based nic it all depends on what juice you like to vape. You say you like JJ's soft mint juice? What PG/VG ratio is it? If it's high PG then buy PG nic and if it's high VG buy high VG nic. Later down the line you can always buy whatever one you do not have and try it out to see if you like it. I bought my original basic kit from LTEcigs, and then added bits and bobs from all over the place over time so hard to pinpoint down a precise vendor for all of the stuff. Sticking to a few flavours at first is a wise move. Best to build up a decent kit and array of flavours over time. Start with the basics.
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Post by MarkS on Jun 22, 2014 8:05:31 GMT
I will add do not be put off by how an MVP looks in pictures. They are a great device and not as ugly or cumbersome once it's in your hand as some photos can make it look.
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Post by MarkS on Jun 22, 2014 8:02:50 GMT
Good point about mixing each flavour on it's own first Perpetua. Exactly what I do. I can see where sirvapalot is coming from as I was the same when I started mixing. I think I even made a similar post to his one here and you came along and helped me out So much of the info I've passed on is stuff I learned from you and others here. It really does take time and patience to get mixing right and with the wonderful array of flavours out there to try you're forever learning. It does get easier as you start to understand your concentrates though.
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Post by MarkS on Jun 22, 2014 7:54:00 GMT
Innokin iTaste MVP.
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Post by MarkS on Jun 22, 2014 1:40:37 GMT
Hey I’m pretty new to mixing and I just have a couple of questions on how you go about perfecting your recipes. I’m am finding it strange that you can make a mix and not know if it’s any good for a few weeks and if there are ways that you can alter the mix and know immediately if it has improved it or not. 1 ) For example, you make a mix, leave it to steep for 3 to 4 weeks, you try it and decide the flavour is too weak. Once you add more flavour does the mix then need to steep again for another few weeks? 2) When using additives do they need to be in during the steeping process or can they be added after? Say I make a nice mix and just want to see what it might be like with a few drops of Koolada, can I vape that straight away or does it need to be left again? 3) Can you make a mix deliberately too strong, leave it to steep and then just add an unflavoured mix to it and be ready to vape? Surely if you’re trying to tone down a mix it doesn’t need additional steeping time? Any wisdom you guys have on how you go about playing with recipes would be much appreciated. Hi the one thing I have learned whilst mixing is patience. An ideal scenario is to mix well a head so you always have a stream of juices to try out. I currently have about 30 different mixes steeping in my cupboard and I mix a new juice everyday. If I am mixing a new recipe I'll mix 5ml only so if it's horrible it's not exactly a waste. 1) Some people do add more flavour and you can do that. I personally don't because it's rare I mix a juice that is so unpleasant it's unvapeable. I just grin a bare it and then if it has promise I'll add more flavour on the next mix. 2) Again imo you should add any additives at the time of mixing, but it's no problem to add stuff like koolada afterwards to see if it works. If you do this I'd leave it a day or 2 before trying the juice again. 3) I would never advise making a mix too strong and then trying to weaken it. It's easier to just add more flavouring than it is to add nic base, pg & vg. Also remember when you add more flavour you will be weakening the nicotine content. If you add more nic base you'll be strengthening it. The best thing to do is just get mixing and learn your flavours. It takes time but you eventually get to know what flavours need to steep and what ones don't. For example custard flavours are best after several weeks steeping. Many fruit flavours are good to go from the off. I think the more different flavours you add to a juice the longer it should be steeped so the flavours blend, but that is not a rule, it's just my opinion. When I make a mix I'll try it after one week, then again after two weeks and so on and so forth. If a juice is good after 1 weeks steeping and I'm enjoying it then there is no need to steep it any longer. Once you have a cupboard full of mixes then it's no problem if a juice can do with longer steeping as you have plenty of others to try before you go back to it. As with anything else vape related it's really down to personal preference. Some people do not steep their juices at all. Just to add the measure of mixing a good juice for me is if I'm still vaping it a month or so down the line. I mix loads of juices that are nice, but not many that I still think are great a month or two later. It might just be me but I get bored of juices quickly and in over a years mixing I only have around half a dozen juices I would call excellent and that are constantly steeping in my cupboard. Hope that makes sense. Good luck and happy mixing.
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Post by MarkS on Jun 21, 2014 15:51:06 GMT
I was wondering what to put with the coconut, as I don't like chocolate [bounty bar was all I could think of] so I'll try the blueberry/coconut mix as soon as the postman arrives. Thanks, I had no idea on the %'s.If you decide to mix any of the flavours on their own I'd mix between 15% - 20%, except for the coffee which I'd mix between 8% - 12% as it's quite bitter.
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Post by MarkS on Jun 21, 2014 14:15:32 GMT
Couldn't resist those prices but I usually just mix T Juice concentrates. Any tips on %'s or mixes for the list I ordered. Off of the top of my head, 10% Blueberry 8% Coconut 2% Sweetener (if you have any) Or 5% Coffee 10% Caramel Original 8% Hazelnut 3% French Vanilla Deluxe (if you have any) 2% Sweetener ((if you have any) Won't say they are mind blowing recipes by any stretch of the imagination but they are more than vapeable.
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Post by MarkS on Jun 20, 2014 23:58:01 GMT
people rave about Mom n Pops, which do precisely zero for me at any percentage. Glad it's not just me who gets nowt from them.
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Post by MarkS on Jun 20, 2014 13:00:14 GMT
Is that white vinegar? Can't stream video here, it's bad enough getting static text. Yeah 1 part water 1 part white vinegar.
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Post by MarkS on Jun 20, 2014 12:29:26 GMT
If like me you are to lazy to keep your brass mods and atties super shiney by polishing them. I found this video on youtube which does the job for you using an ultrasonic cleaner.
Tried it out and it works a treat.
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Post by MarkS on Jun 20, 2014 8:51:18 GMT
Sorry,should of put it in with the last post. 10% DV Absinthe 1 % WG Lemon Mix 1% WG Orange 1% WG Lime 1%WG grapefruit 1 drop Ethyl maltol concentrate per ml of finished liquid. Tried this recipe and it's pretty good. Definitely one of the better Absinthe recipes I've tried. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by MarkS on Jun 19, 2014 14:54:19 GMT
Perhaps this needs updating That one hasn't worked in ages for me
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Post by MarkS on Jun 19, 2014 14:49:18 GMT
I must admit I already do use flavours with ethanol in them too. Good to know it's ok. Thank you. @marks - Out of yours, the only one I have is Lemongrass. Very authentic tasting, but not as a standalone for me. Maybe with coconut or citrus fruit? Maybe even with some cucumber anyway, would recommend starting around 3% as part of a recipe... could be quite overpowering if you're not careful I've only tried the lemongrass out of that lot, it is very good but should be used with caution and as a background flavour at around 1-2% IMHO. Plays well with citrus and other fruits IIRC thank you lairey & Jen good to know it's another CCW flavour where only a small amount is required. I was thinking a lemongrass and lychee mix. For no other reason than it rolls off the tongue nicely.
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Post by MarkS on Jun 19, 2014 12:53:36 GMT
They have arrived. Silly, but I always get excited when I receive new flavours, albeit mostly ending up disappointed by the end result Just had a sniff of the pumpkin and I hope it tastes better than it smells
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