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Post by oxo on Mar 3, 2013 21:24:13 GMT
Pharmaceutical e juice is mentioned in the EU proposals and was announced in to days papers that doctors are likely to be able to give it on prescription. So I guess im wrong in saying big pharma have an interest or would like to get the most profitable share of the market. I have no use for 2mg others on the board clearly do so sorry if me thinking they should go all the way and ban the 2mg while there at it. Happy vaping and remember folks aspartame is not a wise choice to sweeten up yer juice. I You are not reading what others are writing. Yes BP have an interest, nobody has said they want 2mg. But to say ban it completely is very narrow thinking. Have a good read on here and other forums about what is being done. I have read through the EU proposals. They say not above 2mg for recreational there after its a medicinal product. What matters is what the EMPs are doing or plan to do, if you have any links post them up. Writing letters is well meaning but its the content of the response that matters, can you sort me with relevant links ? links to forum posts wont change any outcome. Talking of caffeine and alcohol wont change anything. Its ok to broaden the discussion but you have to realise the options on the table are limited and out of our hands. Its with the bureaucrats and Im totally against begging them for a poultry 2mg maybe 4mg so long as I continue to be the cash cow continuation of the tobacco tax. |
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Post by oxo on Mar 3, 2013 19:23:07 GMT
Oxo, I'm finding it quite difficult to understand you are trying to say. I think it highly unlikley Big Pharma will get control of this, why have they not taken control of alcohol or caffeine? All smoke and mirrors... Pharmaceutical e juice is mentioned in the EU proposals and was announced in to days papers that doctors are likely to be able to give it on prescription. So I guess im wrong in saying big pharma have an interest or would like to get the most profitable share of the market. I have no use for 2mg others on the board clearly do so sorry if me thinking they should go all the way and ban the 2mg while there at it. Happy vaping and remember folks aspartame is not a wise choice to sweeten up yer juice. I |
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Post by oxo on Mar 3, 2013 18:58:15 GMT
That is one of the most stupid things I've ever read!!! Cut your nose off!! Cut my nose off  You either smoke or you dont smoke eat or you dont eat vape with nicotine or dont vape with nicotine. Ill turn my nose up at 2mg any day. If Im mixing a blueberry I wont to taste it. I wouldnt entertain putting 2% in if the mix calls for 25%. If your going to be left with a craving Better to deal with it instead of letting big farma give you upto 4mg and still be left craving. If you think Big farma deserves to profit off what amounts to a ban for the vapers but not for them settle for the bare min and be gratefully. |
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Post by oxo on Mar 3, 2013 18:33:14 GMT
Looks like your right, Do think they are really planing a 2mg limit I cant see it but you cant put anything past them. I was really hoping there was a decimal in the wrong place, like 2 mg and 4mg for meds is a joke. I personally would like to see an outright ban rather than doctors prescribing 4mg juice and vapers left with nothing. They must want to create another black market as vaping is defiantly having an impact on my local backy baron. Your must be jocking, The last thing I want to see is baning nicotine and for Doctors to give me a prescibition for 4mg of nic, I would tell him to shove it where the sun dont shine. I meant total ban including big farma. I dont want to see the local surgery pimping out juice that has next to zero nic, I would sooner go cold turkey without the juice that could be upto but not guaranteed to be 4mg. Total as in everybody. |
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Post by oxo on Mar 3, 2013 17:13:26 GMT
I also started at 2.4mg 1ml or just under per day, dropped to 1.8mg and 1.5ml, then 1.1mg doing 5ml. Ive three batteries on the go, my set-up dont alow for more than 5mls a day, I just cant charge them any faster On a 0.8mg mix thats 4.0mg  Your on 2.4mg dropping 0.4 is no big deal, and remember I dont have any authority and am not an EMP to set any rules, you do as you please. Im only posting out what Ive read and how I interpreter it, and the best coarse of action I can take so Im not left craving. Im not here to wind anyone up and make enemys, Even if they rush things through the time frame could be months if not years before they control the e juice supply. All the best oxo Not a problem Oxo :-)I think I see the problem here, 24mg/ml is equal to 2.4% and not 2.4mg EDITED: to say don't go changing the OP now :-) Looks like your right, Do think they are really planing a 2mg limit I cant see it but you cant put anything past them. I was really hoping there was a decimal in the wrong place, like 2 mg and 4mg for meds is a joke. I personally would like to see an outright ban rather than doctors prescribing 4mg juice and vapers left with nothing. They must want to create another black market as vaping is defiantly having an impact on my local backy baron. |
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Post by oxo on Mar 3, 2013 14:39:25 GMT
Oxo, I started at 24mg and dropped it after a while, I then found I was chain vaping and went back to 24 and just use it less. If I was forced to a 2mg level I will be looking for the Rizzla's in no time. It's great that you want to reduce your intake but why do I need to live by your rules? At this point in time it is believed nicotine is on par with caffeine, do we need to ban the triple espresso? I hope you can find the time to read up as much as possible on this topic, I think your opinion may change. Take care, Ant I also started at 2.4mg 1ml or just under per day, dropped to 1.8mg and 1.5ml, then 1.1mg doing 5ml. Ive three batteries on the go, my set-up dont alow for more than 5mls a day, I just cant charge them any faster On a 0.8mg mix thats 4.0mg Your on 2.4mg dropping 0.4 is no big deal, and remember I dont have any authority and am not an EMP to set any rules, you do as you please. Im only posting out what Ive read and how I interpreter it, and the best coarse of action I can take so Im not left craving. Im not here to wind anyone up and make enemys, Even if they rush things through the time frame could be months if not years before they control the e juice supply. All the best oxo |
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Post by oxo on Mar 3, 2013 13:52:12 GMT
I think there is a need to drop the mg down to the 2 mg talked of in the EU proposals Might as well quit you can get almost to that level of mg's eating tomatoes! 2mg is simply not an alternative and WILL force vapers back to stinkies. 2mgs is not 0.2mg. I can vape as low as 0.8mg I vape 5mls if I mix that low. I think they will be heading to control the milligrams through taxation as there proposals dont mention anything about quantities as far as I have seen. I cant see them meaning 0.2 they need things to tax, Im not aiming to shock anybody and I am anti establishment at heart, its just these people vote the way the bankers tell them, its all a pantomime. I would hate to see people forced to go through there GP through lack of awareness of what they have planed. It might not turn out that way but I see camron promising a referendum in 2017 when in 2009 he was demanding that we have one. The Irish voted no so they had a re vote, these people dont take no for an answer. Stinkies are climbing in prise there is no way I could afford to go back that route but I can make adjustments to my mix. |
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Post by oxo on Mar 3, 2013 13:02:52 GMT
I read today that doctors may be allowed to prescribe e cigs. www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/doctors-allowed-prescribe-electronic-cigarettes-1739542Ive also been reading the EUs proposals on e cig laws, Please scroll down to page 9 Nicotine containing products (NCP) within the link. ec.europa.eu/health/tobacco/docs/com_2012_788_en.pdfThis in conjunction with the new generation of intelligent battery devices is to much of a coincidence. Its only a matter of time before the NHS are prescribing there own pre-filled tamper-proof clearomisers,that need logging in on the internet to set the puff counter for the daily dose. I think there is a need to drop the mg down to the 2 mg talked of in the EU proposals, Im glad Im off the leaf but feel if I dont take steps to reduce now I will have just swapped one prison for another. |
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Post by oxo on Mar 2, 2013 22:53:55 GMT
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Post by oxo on Mar 2, 2013 22:15:12 GMT
Been vaping for three weeks dropped my mg but of coarse the ml went up. By the end of week two Id bought some mixing supplys. Not to impressed with how far a 10ml bottle of flavour concentrate goes Ive placed an order with classikool. Its all a blind experimental process haven't got a clue. Ive been told on an other forum you cant use flavours that are not developed for vaping, The orders done so no stopping that one, lets hope its a good one or its flavoured milkshake all round  Looking forward to hearing of concentrate suppliers, already seen a good deal on nic, looks to be a good site. |
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