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Post by markm on Feb 19, 2015 23:32:35 GMT
Completed, although the form isn't aimed at the general public. But maybe if enough of us complete it they will be forced to sit up and listen. To be fair to the writers of this survey it does set out a fairly balanced starting point. Maybe common sense is starting to emerge in the debate. It is for ANYONE who has opinion, NOT just organisations, I confirmed this with Robert West.
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Post by markm on Feb 19, 2015 15:55:13 GMT
Only some of the anti stuff is Tobacco Company related, in the main they seem more interested In restrictive regulations. They would be quite content to own the market in cigalikes, and the Least effective of those. They could claim the harm reduction cudos without impacting on cig sales.
The biggest cloak and dagger act is the pharmaceutical companies, ones that produce NRT. They Have lobbyists and access to decision makers. They are loosing just as much, if not more financially As the tobacco companies.
The third group is public health, in the form of tobacco control. They had already written a script for The "end game" of smoking, in the first world. Ecigs don't fit that game plan. They have already consigned Snuss, the first genuine harm reduction product for smokers, to the history books. It never even Reached the shelves in most countries before they stamped it out. They have been using many of the same arguments against ecigs. This is the group that constitute the biggest Threat as they have the ears of politicians. These are the ones who have made an industry out of Quitting and they are fighting to save that industry. The more scared they get, the madder the stories They propagate, they are on the run.
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Post by markm on Feb 19, 2015 13:32:23 GMT
Posted on my FB vape group also Thanks Tom
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Post by markm on Feb 19, 2015 13:23:20 GMT
Excellent - thanks markm. E TA : Will post the links on ECF - hope that's OK Thanks, the more people see the article the better.
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Post by markm on Feb 19, 2015 11:45:03 GMT
This is the guy to thank, and I urge any twitter user we to do just that, show You support plain speaking from those with influence. mobile.twitter.com/swimdaily
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Post by markm on Feb 19, 2015 10:50:38 GMT
I just sent a link to my MP, now I'm going back to spreading it on Titter
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Post by markm on Feb 18, 2015 10:13:07 GMT
No power through it? Is that no screen showing or no power to the atomiser? If it's totaly dead then most likely the battery leads. No power at 510 will be output leads From the board, check the ground lead first as it's the easiest fix.
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Post by markm on Feb 17, 2015 18:16:13 GMT
and a vid to follow up the briefing.
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Post by markm on Feb 17, 2015 17:34:40 GMT
mmmmm, looking bad for Dame Sally?? I'm not denying the alleged death that she quoted, but surely the various health departments talk to each other, and use the same reference materials? It should be noted that those 3 instances are world wide, and even then opinions are divided on causation. Lipoid Pneumonia is caused by inhalation of oils - and e-juice contains no oils, which vaporise at much higher temperatures than PG/VG. This was an ANTZ argument from the early days - even they have dropped it now. To be fair to Sally - she didn't actually claim any deaths, just implied them. She did however state serious illness was suffered, which is a bare faced falsehood.
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Post by markm on Feb 17, 2015 17:21:06 GMT
From markm's SSS thread So noone died Dame Sally? ETA: Just pointing out the differences of opinion across our 'unified' health service. Those were unconnected with butterscotch flavour, so not covered by her comment.
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