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Post by matt1988 on Apr 15, 2013 13:02:18 GMT
I fully agree giles but I do think there should be a line. And I think my comments on what is classed as a vendor is just the right side of the line. Would you like a vendor as the chair of ECCA? This is why they need to determine what a vendor is. Edit: But yes, its not like we are having E-lites Owner or Chairman on the comittee, and if it is only someone making e-juice on the side of their garage business, hardly a conflict of interest. |
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Post by matt1988 on Apr 15, 2013 12:48:47 GMT
This confusion has been going on for 2 years with zero progress made and will just continue to hold back ECCA from what it is they are trying to achieve then Seriously, this is like Groundhog Day......this exact scenario was being discussed 2 years ago! Lol Ok, so you would like us to pull away from the political side, and focus on consumer issues. While we do that, ECITA focuses on working for their members benefits and hopefully won't stab the vaping world in the back. How about this then, I know it was mentioned in the meeting, and ECCA seem to be waiting for another trade group to come up, but I think we should work with ECITA more than we are. But fundamentaly they will be focusing on getting the best possible outcome for their members that pay £600 pcm. Which I don't personally feel we can afford to leave ECITA to deal with the politcal side of e-cigs. But if ECCA are really struggling for members, how would a new body find members? Don't get me wrong, and I totally agree with your points, and I'm sure once the EU ruling gets overturned ECCA can start to focus itself towards consumer issues, which it was originally set up to do. |
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Post by matt1988 on Apr 15, 2013 12:15:33 GMT
I understand your points, but I am sure ECCA would like to fight on both counts, political and consumer issues. But unfortunatley they don't have the man power or rescources to do this. So they have to prioritise, and at the moment the biggest consumer issue right now is the impending reclassification.
Now if we get enough members to be able to fight both battles then we are in a win win situation. But I said, ECCA aren't in that position and are prioritising. If the legislation passes, there will be no need or ECCA as there would be no consumers.
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Post by matt1988 on Apr 15, 2013 11:50:06 GMT
Interesting Scott, and I can fully see your thinking, and yes about the meetings, that shouldnt be happening. However I will add that, ECITA have their own agenda for e-cigerettes, and the majority of their members sell cig-look-alikes, and if push come to shove, they would happily settle for only pre-filled cartos being available to sell, and as we know there are many many vapourers that don't use these, and will therefore be pretty useless to them.
I do think ECCA's primary issue should be the impending EU classification on e-cigerettes and/or the TPD. But of course those are my thoughts and not the majority of the consumer base (which ECCA are representing).
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Post by matt1988 on Apr 15, 2013 10:57:01 GMT
Very good summary there MarkS and thank you for the congratulations, although I am unsure whether there will be a re-vote on my position as many members want a re-vote on commitee positions. Anyway, as you rightly say, don't judge Geds personality on how he acted last night, I think James had a lot to do with it, and I think he was stirring things away from the meeting, however I can't be sure on that. |
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Post by matt1988 on Apr 15, 2013 1:06:20 GMT
All I can say at this moment in time, I'm glad we have ECITA who has the know how (and funds) to fight the EU. As if it was down to just ECCA the ban would be in place already!
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Post by matt1988 on Apr 15, 2013 1:03:38 GMT
MarkS can't possibly be forum rep and Chair, maybe Jemima would take the roll back  Don't look at me ... stabbed in the back I was MarkS  lol That is a joke btw , I do wish Mark the best of luck and if you need me just shout, although if I can do it you will find it easy! Gratz as well to Matt, not sure if I could do much to help you but I can count to 10 if u need me  lol Great, can you teach me how to count to 5? |
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Post by matt1988 on Apr 15, 2013 0:40:48 GMT
That was a disaster, the meeting had no control and I don't think the software was really up to it. Roly should not have given the personal opinion he had in the way he did and Ged didn't do himself many favours either. Congrats to forum reps though, at least that was mostly sorted out although that was the only bit that I personally thought was handled well. I agree, although IMO only those that use the forum should vote towards their rep. But hey ho its little things. |
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Post by matt1988 on Apr 15, 2013 0:28:55 GMT
giles not much, Roly, some guy called Ged having a slanging match, and the meeting got adjurned for a week, and nominees are placing a covering letter on ECCA forums to state why they would be suitable for the chairmans role. We will vote (I presume) at the same time next week.
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Post by matt1988 on Apr 15, 2013 0:06:56 GMT
MarkS can't possibly be forum rep and Chair, maybe Jemima would take the roll back
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Post by matt1988 on Apr 14, 2013 23:58:56 GMT
Well that was interesting, so who is going to throw their hat into the ring for Chair? Interesting is an understatement haha. We will have to have a look on the forum lol. I hope next weeks vote doesnt turn out to be a slanging match again though. An hour of my life I won't get back |
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Post by matt1988 on Apr 14, 2013 23:56:02 GMT
Done.
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Post by matt1988 on Apr 14, 2013 23:46:37 GMT
Yeh it is, when I go from my VV to my standard the strength of vape is not as strong the standard also gets less voltage as you use it. However the VV is slightly longer. When I use the standard I find myself reaching for the dial that isn't there. But I do vape at 4.3v. The VV is the next step up, and worth the extra.
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Post by matt1988 on Apr 14, 2013 14:27:46 GMT
Oh I forgot to say how easy it was for me to get off the stinkies. Before I had tried patches, gums, inhalers and sprays to try and get me off. The longest I had lasted was 2 weeks, and I was back on them. This time round, despite all the messing around with flavours and finding the right kit and the oh moaning, it was so much easier. Ok I haven't got off the nicotine, just found a safer way to enjoy it. And now it has been a month, I really think I have kicked the habit. Now whether I try to reduce my nicotine intake is still in much debate in my household, but for now I am enjoying vaping and here's to another month and beyond  |
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Post by matt1988 on Apr 14, 2013 14:00:28 GMT
Awesome! I would love to have a Provari, but the Mrs won't even let me have a Vamo or even a new clearo without telling me I'm spending too much! May treat myself if I make it a year, but I bet the oh will moan I'm still vaping at that point!
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