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Yes - there will be nothing illegal about using anything.  All the TPD will do is ban their sale.

You'll be fine mate, this was never about us - its about them. The folk that now rely on their local B&M, the kids trying ecigs and preferring them to fags. People like my partner who love to smoke but want to have the option there.

I'm commenting on an old reply - back on page 1 - and I apologise, but the point raised by clairea is so apposite. Clive Bates has long argued that ecigs need their own set of regulations, much like the cosmetics industry got. What ecigs got is a set of regulations arguably written by pharmaceutical companies (a direct competitor). The TPD has already happened, it is law - all that remains is its enactment, which Nation States are obliged to carry out. The point of our poster (which is hopefully going to be printed out by at least a few vapers and taken to their vape shops), is that still, people are unaware that it is going to happen.

Only 69 hours left, £2421 raised, £579 to go.

We've just hit 99 funders!

True dr00g, and I hope we can be positive. In fact, in the early days of ViP, we emailed Viscount Ridley to ask for advice - his advice was to employ a lobbyist, because that is how decisions are made these days. Unfortunately, we're not exactly in a position to do so. We're just people who either gave up or cut down on smoking because of ecigs, and we don't want the EU to scupper that for anyone else.

It might be that ViP has a negative effect, although I can't see how - surely even by existing we send a powerful message that people care about this stuff? We're not experts or professionals - we're just kind of caught up in this (I was reading the wrong UKV thread at the wrong time lol). But we're trying. Its well known that despite the alleged 2.1M users of ecigs out there, few turn up to demos and few sign petitions - EFVI was a triumph but it still fell far short of its target.

I see ViP as a way to use a few committed people to have a big effect. Its a try, nothing more.

p.s. actually, if you look at clause d, paragraph 5, article 20 of the TPD: "any form of public or private contribution to any event, activity or individual person with the aim or direct or indirect effect of promoting electronic cigarettes and refill containers and involving or taking place in several Member States or otherwise having cross-border effects is prohibited", the infamous forum-banning clause, then we've already succeeded. Political parties are allowed freedom of expression and association - we can promote ecigs post-TPD and anyone who wants to reference us can promote them too!