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I've been reliably informed that the Banoffee Cookie Dough Concentrate should magically reappear in stock tomorrow (but that sometimes means the day after).

Two very similar named devices designed by Kind Consumer for Nicoventures (a BAT subsidiary) have received marketing approval by the MHRA: the Voke (last year) and the e-Voke (this November).
The first was, as you mention, a non-electronic inhaler but the more recent version is an ecig (link to pdf of the instruction leaflet) just not a very good one.

And you're correct - under the TPD regime, the only devices permitted to be advertised will be those with medicinal approval.

The message will be: "vaping is good as long as you use an approved and regulated device that's been proved to be safe."

It doesn't matter whether this makes it harder to ban other devices as they're going to be banned anyway!
The regulations that bring the TPD into force are just awaiting a signature - there doesn't even need to be a vote in parliament.

Just to put folks minds at rest, Natalie Bahlaj from The E-cig Shop has just confirmed: "Yes it is Mt Baker. They ask everyone to rebrand ie Chefs do Master Baker."

The "just FW" is probably a bit of an exaggeration but it does seem likely that Mt Baker's Thug Juice is FW Jungle Juice plus some menthol. And I think someone figured that the Blue Moo was a similarly simple adaptation.


I've followed your occasional posts over the past few months highlighting your wider mixing/concentrate/taste problems and feel your frustration.

Rather than widen your search for specific concentrates to more brands could I suggest you figure out a flavour profile (eg. "thick banana custard", "lemonade with a bit of zing", "fruity cake") that sounds like it would work for you and then start a thread asking the group-mind to help find an already tested recipe (or come up with a brand new one) that could then be adjusted to your particular palette?  Hell, maybe start with one from the existing stack?

There's so much talent, experience and goodwill here that you'd stand a good chance of success and it might make an interesting thread for others hunting for that illusive 'Eureka' moment.

Where Botboy writes:

Life's too short to deal with specific gravities for individual concentrates.

Posting this just in case it helps someone else here:

It may just be me but after extensive testing over the past couple of months, I've figured out that I develop a wheeze, a 'tight' chest and lots of phlegm after a few hours on any juice with more than 40% VG regardless of any other obvious variable (such as liquid intake, illness or the weather). This seems to happen with all kinds of juice, so I reckon it's unlikely to be due to a reaction to any specific ingredient.
And after a day of heavy vaping on 70PG/30VG my breathing is fine and my chest is clear.

No more cloud chasing for me!