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Post by Richard46 on May 9, 2017 11:55:08 GMT
Hmmm yes but if you buy illegal drugs it's illegal But buying and even just possessing illegal drugs is specifically illegal. No such laws about non-compliant tanks/e-cig kit/juices.
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Post by Richard46 on May 9, 2017 11:37:07 GMT
As a side note in all this. Not so many weeks back, Gary Dibley posted on a faceache group (I know, but you can sometimes pick up good information) that at that moment in time NOTHING was yet TPD compliant, only that notification was given and applications made, but no certification had been issued for anything. Which leads me to pose the question. Will vendors show product certification on their website or will we be expected to take their word for it when a product has "TPD compliant" in the description ? I understand that the onus is on the vendor, but excuse me for thinking that somewhere along the line, the powers that be will quite happily try and take the consumer to task along the way. Anything is possible but under the TPD I don't see how. Consumers are not mentioned in the TPD. Perhaps a comparision with car emission standards is relevant. i.e. I have a Skoda that it has now been discovered was sold to me new but did not meet the legal standard. There has been no suggestion that all us VW/Skoda/SEAT owners are responsible in any way however. It is the supplier who is responsible for what they sell. Just my take on it of course.
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Post by Richard46 on May 9, 2017 10:48:34 GMT
As far as I know TPD only cover business too so I could sell my 5ml tank as a private vendor as I am not a business. Always thought the 2ml tank was beyond a joke like the new warning sign on coils tanks & mods when you purchase these they have no nicotine in them so why have a warning sign. After all some of the mods are like glorified paper weights these days lol I think thats an interesting thought and something which needs clarification - I thought the regulations covered all sales not just business related sales. It would be nice if it didn't but I have a feeling they would have taken care of that I do feel that given the forum isn't hosted on UK servers and we do indeed cater to many members who don't live in the UK or EU we're still OK with the Chinese vendors and non EU vendors listing non compliant stuff here. I think though that EU/UK vendors can't sell non compliant goods to anyone even those outside UK/EU? Not sure and again we need some clarification on that. My reading of the regs is the same the sections on sales refer to 'persons' i.e. anyone. Could be read that even second hand sales of non-compliant stuff is illegal. If the authorities are going to hunt down the 'odd' hobbyist is another matter but I suspect legally they could. snow I think your interpretation is correct and this is not something where chances can be taken.
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Post by Richard46 on May 9, 2017 9:28:33 GMT
As far as I know aaec is a Forum with members all over the world, the TPD only cover countries in the E.U so vendors could still advertise here for countries that are not effected by the TPD. That sounds like it makes sense but then I am not responsible for the forum. About buyers being responsible as mentioned earlier. I have read the regs and I cannot see anything about buying at all. It is selling that will be illegal. Buying something that it is not illegal to buy and will still be legal to possess from someone who has sold it in contravention of the law is an interesting one. Aiding & abetting a contravention of the regulations perhaps? I am trying to think of an equivalent 'banned' but not 'banned' product?
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Post by Richard46 on Apr 7, 2017 10:48:08 GMT
Good response by Clive, but forgets that the trade association were/are to blame for this by having such a stupid code in the first place. Had they not had that as a code of conduct, the Royal busybodies would not have been able to attack it. Absolutely right there it is bloody stupid. Although I think he hints at his disagreement with it. Must read again later.
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Post by Richard46 on Apr 7, 2017 10:16:40 GMT
What they should be worrying about is all these supermarkets selling low fat cheese without checking if people already eat cheese. Its a gate way to cholesterol I tell you; worse reading anything by RSPH is a gateway to stupidity. Great response from Clive as always www.clivebates.com/?p=4753
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Post by Richard46 on Mar 31, 2017 21:42:28 GMT
The link is direct, no FB needed Thanks but still no I do wish to leave any trace on FB at all.
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Post by Richard46 on Mar 31, 2017 18:19:54 GMT
FB no sorry.
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Post by Richard46 on Mar 22, 2017 9:39:58 GMT
I'm liking that many Vapers, like Richard46 , don't notice how long ago they stopped Smoking. It's a fine milestone, but even finer to not notice 'cos I think that means Smoking is in the past, gone, stopped. It is not something I do give any regular thought to but over on UKVapers I have a banner that gives you days and cigs and money saved since day zero and I happened to notice it by chance.
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Post by Richard46 on Mar 21, 2017 17:54:44 GMT
Thought I would post here as it is the most likely place that smokers looking for encouragement might be hanging around. I just noticed that I have gone 1000 days without a cigarette. I smoked heavily for over 40 years and never even thought I could give up. But with the alternative of vaping I did and never have a moments wish to light a ciggy again.
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Post by Richard46 on Mar 9, 2017 15:12:42 GMT
If I can fit in 365.25 Vaping Days (on average) each year then I am happy.
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Post by Richard46 on Mar 7, 2017 22:23:12 GMT
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Post by Richard46 on Mar 7, 2017 20:50:30 GMT
£5.65 for 10ml of juice and they could not find the dosh to pay their tax bill. My nose bleeds for them.
Sympathy for their staff though who will probably be the main victims of this.
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Post by Richard46 on Mar 2, 2017 11:03:07 GMT
Welcome jacatro. We hear you have even more onerous vaping legislation/restrictions in the US than we do in the UK/EU.
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Post by Richard46 on Mar 2, 2017 9:49:09 GMT
,,,, 3. Just nic, pg and vg does need a little bit of steeping. I tried it straight off and it was horrid, nothing like the ready made flavourless I've used. ,,,,,,. Running hot/warm water over the bottle can speed steeping process I have heard.
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