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I don't think that is allowed in this instance Karma, the big man upstairs has said imports are also banned, he's imposed tighter restrictions on nicotine in liquid form, and basically done everything possible, within their power to make sure the only ecigs we can access, are licensed. That's the situation I'm envisioning, kind of a worse than worst case scenario. lol.

From the looks of it, it is a very basic ciggalike kit. But trying it should tell you whether vaping is for you or not. Just remember when trying it, it gets much, much better than that kit.

www.freedomcigarettes.com/april-super-duper-deal

As for the 2 kits you mentioned, both would be a massive step up from the kit you've ordered, but just to confuse you a little more, you should check out the Riva kit.

www.vapeescape.co.uk/the-riva-1100-deluxe-kit~151

or if on a tight budget, this one....

vapourhut.com/e-cigarette%20kit?product_id=104

The standard Cartomisers that you can pick via the drop down menu on VH kit you linked to, are empty cartomisers mate. It's a good value kit, and cartomisers aren't so bad, a lot of people prefer those to Visions, so it's worth trying them. They hold more liquid than a cartridge, so you're not forever refilling.

Hi QB sorry about the delayed response, had to pop out. I just noticed my "Edit" was missing from your quote. I agree, about pulling together. Obviously my point has always been that I don't think it will come to the "worst case scenario," and that some regulation will have good sides and bad sides. But I am still learning, and it seems that some kind of action is going to be required from the community in order to stop the "worst case scenario" actually happening. I certainly don't want to lose my freedom to vape, so if the more experienced ones within the vaping community insist that something needs to be done, then I will happily do what I can.

I still stand by one of the things I originally said though, and that's that all suppliers and manufacturers need to be regulated for standards, however, if that can be achieved by the ECITA or a similar body, then that would be ideal. The small problem at the minute is, until you're told, online, by getting involved with things like this forum, you have no idea when you go and buy your first Ecig, that the ECCA or ECITA exist, never mind what they do, so you wouldn't know to buy from a member, or approved vendor. From what I've seen, these regulatory bodies do good things, and have good ideas, but until every vendor selling in the UK is bound by them, my concern is still valid.

Edit Reason: Keep mixing up my eccas and my ecitas, lol.

No Anne, I didn't. My lad is 8, and we noticed when he plays football he struggles with his breathing a little more than the other lads, some of whom's parents smoke in front of them, which we've never done, Grrrr. Have taken him to the doctors, but he pretty much said he should grow out of it, and it was nothing to worry about. They both like Kiwis, think I may try giving them a lot more if that is true.

Hifi, I'm not completely sold on the idea that this legislation would lead to your worst case scenario, and I still think there are some good sides to it that are often ignored. That being said, I admit I've still got a lot to learn, and also if it does lead to your worst case scenario, then I admit the negatives would far outweigh the positives, especially for us established vapers.

For that reason I'm going to remove my signature thingy, although it won't make a blind bit of difference whilst others still have one, IMO. From what you were saying in that show, and what you've said in your above post, that is all the evidence the MRHA would need for them to be classed as a cessation device, so let's just hope they don't come looking here, or on other forums.

Edit: point of note is that AAEC, unlike other places, have made it so that their signature banners can focus on vaping, and the amount of time doing that, which is a good thing, maybe, as an extension of that, the admins should ban the quit date signature banners, especially since they offer an alternative type of signature banner.... Gotta admit though, the colour won't go with my rams badges as well.

I'll let you know next week, think I'll be getting these, the colour suits the person they're for, the batteries are pretty big, and the screen is pretty cool.

As I indicated Macca, that opinion is based on the assumption that the device was not listed as being able to use the batteries he bought. I don't know if you watched the show Macca, but he used non rechargable ones, CR123? I think, that were meant for cameras, didn't have a high enough C rating, and were stacked.