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I just made up my first tester of custard yesterday now I just have ot wait a month to see what its like, the big problem for me right now is I have zero idea what nic strength to go for and very little idea about what tank i'll want it in so not quite sure on the mix to aim for, I know I can suck 50/50 through a subtank (although it makes menthol flavours rather lively) but on the other hand I have been chugging several zero nic 70%vg flavours in the last few days and I am not sure if I should aim for that with other mixes ....

really I should probably wait for the mods and tanks I rodered (200w tc mod tfv4 and crius tanks) to arrive and see how they go, it might be that I no longer require nic in my adv and need ot chop it out, but a decent bit of kit will tell me that much better than my low air flow mini nautis /

not a single online review good or bad from any of the online review sites .... and just a couple of reviews on their actual website .... i don't think i would order off them if their street customers don't feel compelled to post online reviews about them it makes me ask why not /

I went with a 7 wrap build in the subtank and it works perfectly at 380 on 20watts so i'll stick with that, although ive found that all my thin nic juices taste foul and make me go dizzy really fast, then I tried some high vg stuff at 3mg and it seems ok in terms of dizzy factor but the taste and smell are off, going to need to try something else now, maybe mix my own but that means steeping for ages and I'm just not sure I can be faffed with that unless I can say bang 20% of a single flavour conc into some base mix and vape it the next day, I really don't understand much about mixing other than measuring it out at as per the calc and shoving it the back of a cupbard for a month (because I haven't yet found anything other than bublegum or menthol  flavours that I like as much as custards, and I don't know long or how to mix the bubblegum conc)

meh i'll figure it out over time bound to be some threads about it all that I just haven't scrolled through to lol

perhaps they will get round to specifying it but hopefully it is any product that is sold as "not designed for use with nicotine", they can then relegate the likes of ce4's as "designed for use with nicotine" and have them as the sole contender for regulation (since there old and not that good), that is my take away from the various bits of information contained in the few released documents and follow-up consultation documents, the clarification that the advertising stuff wont apply to e-cigs is strange, not that long ago they were arguing that should be the case and lost the argument in the regulatory commission meeting vote about it, seems like a complete U-turn on the stated position of just a few months ago, its all rather confusing and leaves a dodgy taste in the mouth, they cant change their position again without further consultation I hope otherwise were in for a bumpy ride /

ok thanks for that I guess i'll just make up a conc shot with the v2 stuff as its all I have atm and order the v1 stuff in a few days when I have more money and make that up, then I can let you know if theres a massive difference or not in a coupe of months once its ready to be used lol

temp control will be a major thing quite soon, the regulations will demand it as a minimum standard because it provides a safety feature that prevents you from generating the "dangerous gases" no doubt the new stuff will be regulated down to below 450f ....

as to the coffee machine, I've had a Cuisinart grinder >filter>hot pot machine for about 14 years, I remember struggeling to find coffee that tasted good from it originally because it tended to overheat the grounds and make a rather bitter tasting brew with anything aribica based, having found the right "type" it makes fantastic brews (aribica apparently needs a slightly lower temp water) although to be fair I us it about 10 times a year now (when I worked and got up at the same time of day I used it all the time because it has a clock based auto run feature) but after chatting with some douche fag in the local coffee bean store I found out its rare for any machine to work well with beans of all sorts, although there is one that costs about £20k that has a built in qr scanner that can select the presets for each type of bean so long as its hoked up to the internet for database access (or the standalone one with the updateable database costs a mere £25k.....) however for the simplicity of fill it up push the buttons and go to bed and wake up with a fresh pot of wakeup sludge I cant fault it

until the consultation is finished there will be no definitive on the derivatives registration requirements for the UK, its less likely the MHRA will want to swamp itself with 100 product registrations per juice based on the % variation of the filler (vg/pg) and the nic concentration, the EU will require it but that responsibility will fall to the person or company that exports the product to the EU destination in accordance with the local rules for that item....

add on to that they are professional fees incurred via the MHRA can be claimed against taxable deductions and suddenly you see it has zero impact on the overall costs to the company, if the fees are set to high then they will be earning rebates every year.... leaving the end product price basically fixed.

consider for each company currently flogging e-juice there are a possible 100 permutations of each flavour mix based on pg/vg /nic levels if each creator has 20 juices that's 2000 notification filings that need processing by the MHRA extrapolate that out across the number of suppliers currently on the market and your looking at millions of filings, they would need thousands of new staff to cover the initial day one window rather than the handful they are predicting to need, the testing labs would similarly require thousands of gcms machines and techs to run them to get the stuff processed within the 6 month window and none of that is available, so thee is a better than average chance they don't actually want all that work or they will require a lot longer to get it done before opening the market up to receive new applications and still process them within the 6month timeframe they have indicated.