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Post by Fog On The Tyne Ltd on Aug 21, 2012 14:12:36 GMT
For the last 2 hours I haven't been able to log in to Paypal on a desktop. It works fine when I log in to my account with the mobile app so no problems with my account but I can't even view the Paypal home page on a desktop.
Anyone else having the same issue today?
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Post by Fog On The Tyne Ltd on Aug 20, 2012 12:04:23 GMT
That's very generous of you BC
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Post by Fog On The Tyne Ltd on Aug 20, 2012 11:45:31 GMT
I have reasons for asking this question, because as most of us may be aware the cheapest equipment and liquids are from China, but I remember when I first started out vaping I was googling on the net and be it from other forums or somewhere on the net ( I honestly, can't remember where) But I read that e liquid or the Pg Vg was not advisable to purchase from there. Something to do with the grade. Well, now I'm curious to know if it is unsafe or safe to purchase Pg or Vg, that is why in a previous post I asked why some liquids are sold so cheap? Actually I was wondering if the cheap E liquids could be so cheap because it could be made from these? I know you've mentioned "cheap" e-liquid before and perhaps have doubts about the quality as a result. The thing to remember is that even if e-liquid cost 60p for a 10ml bottle it would still be 100 times more expensive than petrol. There's really no such thing as cheap e-liquid.
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Post by Fog On The Tyne Ltd on Aug 18, 2012 23:52:40 GMT
Strewth, you move fast Daz! Welcome to AAEC and thanks for your order
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Post by Fog On The Tyne Ltd on Aug 18, 2012 23:36:23 GMT
Morning all, Finally updated my site to include a random flavour option at a reduced price. You can buy as many random flavours as you like and specify a flavour or category of flavour that you don't wish to receive in the order comments. As usual, if you buy 10 or more bottles in a single order you'll get a free bottle as well and the 25% discount can still be used on top of that
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Post by Fog On The Tyne Ltd on Aug 17, 2012 21:43:34 GMT
The quality control on China's latest e-cig looks fairly decent.
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Post by Fog On The Tyne Ltd on Aug 17, 2012 13:49:24 GMT
fog on the tyne I may have upset you or otbers, and I apologise. I didn't mean to imply that you can judge quality of a product by a workers race. I believe our government, the british government is terrible, far from perfect. As is the americans across the pond. But despite there huge downsides. However terrible these governments are, regulation or no regulation, I think it is possible to question any company not by its race, but by its government who enforces the rule of law, or not as the case may be. I'm sorry if I seem to be having a go at you jayjay and you haven't upset me. The point I'm making is that people make casual racist remarks about the Chinese all the time and nobody ever challenges them or even acknowledges that its racist. For example, when you said "I'm really sorry I meant Chinese", isn't that just more specifically targetted racism? Imagine if you had said, "They sound Bangladeshi. Do you have any doubts about their integrity?". There'd be uproar but the Chinese seem to be fair game. There are many governments in the world I hate. One thing I'm particularly riled about at the moment is the latest stories of corruption in the FDA where drug companies have been effectively paying to get drugs approved. This doesn't mean that I think Microsoft can't make software or that Dodge can't make cars. It doesn't mean I dislike Americans or wouldn't visit their country, it just means I think some parts of its administration are corrupt. I do kind of understand what you're trying to say but consider this... Right now if you decide to make e-liquid in the UK, you can pretty much do what you want. No qualifications required and no regulation to interfere with it. You can make it without having the faintest clue what you were doing or knowing whether it was dangerous and the chances are that it would sell well as it would have "Made In The UK" stamped on it (plus, it would be years before anyone got ill). Imagine if you then walked into Dekang HQ and asked them for a job?
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Post by Fog On The Tyne Ltd on Aug 17, 2012 11:10:49 GMT
I'm sure you didn't mean to denigrate Asians. Is it possible that "they sound Asian" and "do you have doubts about their integrity?" were two entirely unrelated statements? Their proximity would suggest otherwise and that is going to offend most people. I say most people, not all, because there are still plenty of people who seem to think that it's entirely acceptable to portray Asians and in particular the Chinese as peasant, sweat-shop workers without the faintest idea of quality control, no regard for safety and for whom ethical conduct is an entirely alien concept.
The research and development team at Dekang consists of only people with AT LEAST a masters degree in their specialist field. Ask yourself this, how many UK and US e-liquid mixers have any chemical engineering background whatsoever? How many even have an A-level in chemistry? Yet you would trust these people to concoct substances that you will INHALE instead of a specialised, experienced, QUALIFIED team based on no reason other than one is British and the other is Asian?
This anti-Chinese sentiment seems to have drifted over from our friends across the pond and somehow become entrenched in our own views. This, coming from a country that makes no secret of its desire to restrict imports as much as legally possible. A country where 36% of all household appliances are made by prisoners in privatised prisons. A country that owes China one trillion US dollars. Yet the casual racism and mistrust towards the Chinese continues and is even seen as a healthy and patriotic attitude to have in America. Why is this seen as acceptable? Why is it okay to have your iPhone made in China and not trust them to make anything else?
It's true that a large amount of counterfeit goods come from China but is this any surprise? China makes most consumer products, we haven't seen manufacturing on this scale before. One in five people are Chinese. There are counterfeiters and shoddy manufacturers all over the world. Judge a company on its reputation not on its workers' race.
The thing to remember regarding ecigs/e-liquid and people seem to forget this, is that the Chinese invented them. It is the UK and US manufacturers that are copying their invention. If it weren't for the Chinese, we'd all still be killing ourselves with smoke, which would probably be for the best since we'd also be suffering a catastrophic global financial meltdown if China wasn't bailing us out.
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Post by Fog On The Tyne Ltd on Aug 16, 2012 20:21:30 GMT
Thanks maccafan, ill look into them. They sound asian. have you any doubts about there integrity? Would you have no doubts about their integrity if they weren't Asian?
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Post by Fog On The Tyne Ltd on Aug 16, 2012 18:17:54 GMT
I might create that option to review liquids soon BC but I'm worried that people will suspect that I've just written the reviews myself. I notice that there are sites that effectively pay customers to leave reviews by offering money off their next order. I've always thought that it seems somewhat dishonest. Cor flip. Must be very naive, would never have thought people are paid for their reviews!!!, I know some places check them first and then if they are good let them through, a certain bedroom company I have been dealing with I think!!! I shall put my reviews on here then Thanks BC. If I do create the option of leaving reviews on the site, it would have to be that reviews go through unapproved. But then I would be leaving myself at the mercy of trolls or possibly competitors. It's a tricky one.
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Post by Fog On The Tyne Ltd on Aug 16, 2012 18:08:26 GMT
Got my order delivered to work today at 1pm after ordering yesterday at 3:30pm! Less than 24 hours, great service thanks very much! Ordered vanilla mint, choco mint, fruit mix and RY4. I have never tried any of these but they have the best quality bottles i have seen in my short time vaping! 3 of the 4 are now 'breathing' but i couldnt wait to vape the vanilla mint and i must say its gorgeous! Best flavour i have tried so far in my 1st 2 weeks on the vape. Thanks again Thanks for ordering jackop! I'm pleased to hear it arrived quickly. Hope you like your other flavours as much as the vanilla mint
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Post by Fog On The Tyne Ltd on Aug 16, 2012 14:12:18 GMT
But I assume the ones which are made under these circumstances: with good quality ingredients which is required for e Liquid, under the right conditions, with good technology used to create it, with the expertise of the manufacturers and qualifications of the research and development team. Would not sell it at a very low price am I right in thinking so? This is what I'm trying to understand regarding the 30ml bottles being sold at a very very low price. It really depends on how much they're making. Better to sell vast quantities for minimal profit than tiny amounts with a 1000% mark up. Look at petrol for example, and the huge amount of effort that goes into turning crude oil into useable, refined petrol. Surveying, bidding for exploration rights, deep sea drilling, construction of huge oil refineries, mass transportation by sea and land. At the end of all that, they sell the petrol for 60p a litre (when you exlude duty). That doesn't mean BP is selling inferior fuel to what Mr X makes in his garage using chip fat and ethanol. As for 30ml bottles, the packaging is more efficient so it can be sold for less per ml.
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Post by Fog On The Tyne Ltd on Aug 16, 2012 13:36:26 GMT
The price of e-liquid doesn't necessarily reflect its quality.
The quality is determined by the ingredients (and the source of those ingredients), the conditions under which it was made, the technology used to create it, the expertise of the manufacturers and the qualifications of the research and development team.
The price is just the price. A figure the vendor has put on it.
Low quality and high quality e-liquid can both be sold for either low or high prices. Efficiency has a lot more to do with the price than quality.
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Post by Fog On The Tyne Ltd on Aug 15, 2012 14:08:20 GMT
I've been very good this time, I put them in the cupboard with the lids off all night. I just discovered I have forgotten to snip the top of the bottle ???. Well it's too bad now, I neeed to try this icecream flavour. So you've basically been torturing yourself by keeping sealed bottles in the cupboard?
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Post by Fog On The Tyne Ltd on Aug 15, 2012 14:06:34 GMT
Thanks so much for the good feeback everybody! A customer I spoke to last night made a great suggestion and I'm interested in hearing what everyone thinks of it... I'm noticing lately that there are flavours that I never imagined that I would like or would ever have bought personally and I'm thinking there must be a lot of vapers out there who haven't tried flavours that they just assume they don't like. If I have an offer where you can buy 10 random bottles for a discounted price of say £25, would that get much interest? If there was a particular flavour you hated, you could leave a note in the order comments box saying "no vanilla" for example and I'd make sure that flavour wasn't included in your random ten bottles. I think that sounds a good idea dave Also is there anywhere on your site I can leave reviews I might create that option to review liquids soon BC but I'm worried that people will suspect that I've just written the reviews myself. I notice that there are sites that effectively pay customers to leave reviews by offering money off their next order. I've always thought that it seems somewhat dishonest.
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