Jeremy Hunts new war e cigarettes

[Ron]

www.trendingcentral.com/jeremy-hunts-new-war-e-cigarettes/

[djs]

Oh dear. If the UK government is SO desperate

“The UK Government considers the revised Tobacco Products Directive to be crucial to more effective tobacco control across the EU…"

Then here's an idea. Remove the whole e-cig thing from the TPD. e-cigs should not even be in there. They're not tobacco, they're not medicines.

When he says

"The UK Government supports the regulation of nicotine-containing products, including e-cigarettes, as medicines”

he is of course talking rubbish. The truth is that *some MPs* want this. It's not the same.

Time to write this numpty a letter I feel.

[markm]

Someone has been whispering some untruths in the poor chaps ear, that or they have
just offered him huge heaps of Wonga.com

[jeffc]

He has most definitely been ill advised regarding e-cigarettes ,

It`s the blind leading the blind syndrome, again.

Numpties the lot of them at the MHRA & ASH, ably assisted by McKee, Chapman,Glantz.

Roll on 2015 when we the vapers (1.5 million) can vote them out of office (exclusions McKee,Chapman,Glantz, sponsored by Pharma Co`s).

[barrynorton]

Nov 13, 2013 19:17:22 GMT jeffc said:

Roll on 2015 when we the vapers (1.5 million) can vote them out of office

We can? In favour of whom? The most anti-e-cigarette party, who stand a chance, or the lunatic racists who have mentioned e-cigarettes among their utterly unconvincing claimed version of libertarianism, who don't?

[markm]

It might be a push at a general election but I have no doubt that with a careful choice of area
we already have enough numbers to get an MEP on a single policy ticket. Lets see how the numbers
are through next year, it might be a good time to launch a Vaping Lord Such offensive!
Anyone know how much the deposit is?

[barrynorton]

A £5000 deposit is required to stand in European elections. This will be returned if a candidate obtains 2.5% of the votes cast in the entire region.

However:

It is extremely difficult for independents to be successful in European elections. This is due to several factors:

• The regions for EU elections are huge. London was a single region and had an electorate of five million
  
• The costs of running in a European election are enormous - the spending limits range from £270,000 - £360,000.
• There has never been a directly elected independent from the UK in the EU Parliament.
• The party list system is arguably biased against independent candidates

www.independentnetwork.org.uk/research/independents-european-elections

[GunJack]

considered opinion - the man's a T%£&

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Nov 13, 2013 19:34:10 GMT barrynorton said:

Nov 13, 2013 19:17:22 GMT jeffc said:

Roll on 2015 when we the vapers (1.5 million) can vote them out of office

We can? In favour of whom? The most anti-e-cigarette party, who stand a chance, or the lunatic racists who have mentioned e-cigarettes among their utterly unconvincing claimed version of libertarianism, who don't?

Lib Dem?

[giles]

Yes, the man's an absolute jeremy, if you'll pardon my rhyming slang.

[bigjim]

Just sayin'.

[loobiebloo]

I have never taken a great deal of interest in politics. I vote, I've signed a few petitions and group letters in the past on topics that I feel strongly about but that's about it. I have just e-mailed Mr Hunt;vaping is obviously changing my life more profoundly than I realised!

[Raffles]

Don't get me started...

www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/nov/08/jeremy-hunt-17m-hotcourses-sale-inflexion

People... who are they?... they're not in my world!

[monty]

Is it true his middle name is Wodock?

[Greg]

I think it's likely Jeremy hunt will get his way and here's why. I'm ne to this vaping lark avingCouncil only been participating a week or so but I'm astounded at how effective it is, not one cigarette or the desire forgone since I started.
I was also amazed since joining this forum how vast and readily available all this vaping kit is, not to mention the minimal cost in comparison to smoking.
As more and more people take up vaping and ditch cigs the vast tax the govt collect on cogs will continually decline. Despite there directive to ban cig advertising, stop displaying them in shops and say they want you to stop they are lying through their teeth. They know theyned the taxation and the last thing thet want is a cheap unregulated and effective alternative over which they have no control and little income from.
Then we have the big cig companies making enormous profit through volume, these companies will be in cahoots with the politicians all of whom are lining their own pockets whilst raking in tax at the same time.
I don't agree with the direction it will end up going butim afraid it's only a matter of time.