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Post by jevans on May 17, 2016 11:28:02 GMT
yahoo2u2Hells bells, we truly are up a creek without a paddle! Jim
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Post by anon4 on May 17, 2016 11:30:48 GMT
Someone on fasttech mentioned www.hiliq.com they sell pure and 200mg though I wouldn't advise importing those they sell normal strength base as well
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Post by DiscoDes on May 17, 2016 11:50:20 GMT
Thanks your reply DiscoDesI've another ill informed question....Whose brainchild is the TPD? Jim It's a complex one to answer jevans In part it's the MHRA, in part it's the EU, in part it's the Government, in part it's BIG Pharma. You need to look back to 2 to 3 years ago when Linda Mcaven a (UK) MEP managed to get E-cigarettes included in the TPD whose primary pupose was to change the tobacco laws (plain packaging, not 10's, no menthol flavours) It is speculated she was heavily lobied by the big Pharma Companies to get Vaping included in the tPD as a way to protect the NRT/quit drugs market. Whatever the reason is behind it it's clear it was a "knee jerk" reaction by the EU based on no evidence based data at the time. The TPD is a Statutory Instrument issued by the EU for member states to then make into law in their own countries. There is a lot more to answer but the above is a skim over view by me.
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Post by phtumshk on May 17, 2016 11:54:58 GMT
Someone on fasttech mentioned www.hiliq.com they sell pure and 200mg though I wouldn't advise importing those they sell normal strength base as well £30(ish) for 250ml at 48mg delivered seems reasonable if you cant get it from the UK.
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Post by anon4 on May 17, 2016 12:39:01 GMT
$18.67 for 250ml of 48mg in vg, not sure on shipping but that's a bargain. Opinions seem positive too they actually glue the lids shut (from the outside) so no nasty surprises for the couriers
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Post by jevans on May 17, 2016 13:36:05 GMT
Many thanks DiscoDes , my brain is starting to hurt! Jim
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 13:41:42 GMT
Thanks your reply DiscoDes I've another ill informed question....Whose brainchild is the TPD? Jim Satan
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Post by phtumshk on May 17, 2016 13:45:03 GMT
$18.67 for 250ml of 48mg in vg, not sure on shipping but that's a bargain. Opinions seem positive too they actually glue the lids shut (from the outside) so no nasty surprises for the couriers Shipping is $20 to $22 about £14 via fed ex or dhl only. Ive book marked it for future ref.
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Post by jevans on May 17, 2016 14:07:01 GMT
Very good, I had to smile! Jim
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Post by Perpetua on May 17, 2016 16:20:13 GMT
Thanks your reply DiscoDes I've another ill informed question....Whose brainchild is the TPD? Jim Morons . . . . who either don't want to know, choose ( or are paid ) to ignore the massive health benefits ecigs have over conventional smoking.
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Post by BrenD on May 17, 2016 16:26:14 GMT
I can only hope this is a temporary issue and the powers that be won't be able to ignore the science forever.
I don't believe that will be the case, but you've got to hope, right?
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Post by nanotm on May 17, 2016 17:27:00 GMT
I can only hope this is a temporary issue and the powers that be won't be able to ignore the science forever. I don't believe that will be the case, but you've got to hope, right? the thing is even if we voted out of the EU as a country in the referendum we would still be under EU law as they stand today until sept 2018 (allowing a few days for Cameron to try and wriggle out of making the formal notification, a formal vote of no confidence in him and the subsequent party election of boris or similar as the new leader) under the 24 months clause in article 50 of the Lisbon treaty, unless by some miracle both sides agreed to let us just cease being a member immediately (no harm/no foul situation) so at best whoever is the leader of the house after the referendum will be allowed to suspend the TPD article 20, (not repeal it but just make it totally unenforceable within the UK) it would still apply to cross boarder sales /
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Post by davetherayon on May 17, 2016 19:16:25 GMT
Mini freezer purchased, another 2 L of base on order, that makes 6 L. At current usage (3 mg mix, 4.17 ML of base per 100ML that is, 100ML usage a week) that'll keep me going for 27.6 years. Sorted, unless PG and VG are somehow illegalised...!
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Post by nanotm on May 17, 2016 19:21:09 GMT
Mini freezer purchased, another 2 L of base on order, that makes 6 L. At current usage (3 mg mix, 4.17 ML of base per 100ML that is, 100ML usage a week) that'll keep me going for 27.6 years. Sorted, unless PG and VG are somehow illegalised...! pg might get harder to come by if the german health department gets its way but vg would be a tad difficult to limit given you can make the stuff in your kitchen with a few sacks of spuds, then use t he left over "waste product" to make mash and the peel to make vodka if your into that sort of thing
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 19:44:06 GMT
Mini freezer purchased, another 2 L of base on order, that makes 6 L. At current usage (3 mg mix, 4.17 ML of base per 100ML that is, 100ML usage a week) that'll keep me going for 27.6 years. Sorted, unless PG and VG are somehow illegalised...! Will it even keep that long ?
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