VG flavour vrs pg flavour

[Lee]

I might have just ordered several vg based flavourings, since they were only £1 each @ chefs

Are Real Flavours any good?

Are VG based flavours stronger than PG?

And does anyone know the correct ratios for my dinky list

Rebels - The Yummy Range   
French Vanilla Cappuccino - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Coffee - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
French Vanilla - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Mocha - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Butterscotch Pudding - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Gummy Candy - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Lemon Meringue - Real Flavours - Size : 30ml   
Coffee Cake - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Caramel Apple - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Chocolate Cake - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Candy Apple - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Banana Foster - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Cinnamon Custard - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Bread Pudding - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Caramel Cappuccino - Real Flavours - Size : 30ml   
Dreamsicle - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Apple Pie - Real Flavours - Size : 30ml   
Fruit Candy - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Neapolitan Ice Cream - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml
Peanut Butter Cup - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Red Energy - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Blue Moon Ice Cream - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Green Energy - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Blackberries & Cream - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Chocolate Passion - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Caramel - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml   
Red Soda - Real Flavours - Size : 30ml   
MTN Juice - Real Flavours - Size : 10ml

I was £1.71 over the free postage fresh hold with that little order    

[joeten]

All I can think of is you will probably need some steeping time, can't speak to the other question as I have not used them but I will be interested to see the feed back on your question for future possibilities.

[Perpetua]

Remember this is only my tastes Lee and yours might be different . . . . all the VG based Real concentrates I've tried have been weak, extremely weak. They smelt terrific but carried no flavour at all, despite plenty of steeping time.

Literally I could have just added my nic base and vaped them like that.

Chefs are discontinuing the VG version and going over to the PG range instead as far as I'm aware, which I think will be considerably better as the essence of the flavour is all there.

Sorry if I'm the bearer of not so great tidings.

[jtc]

From what I've experienced it doesn't matter if a flavour is in pg or vg when it comes to taste.
I think it's all down to the actual flavouring.Are real flavours any good to start with.
I only make max vg juices now and I do seem to find steeping can take longer in heavy vg in most cases. I think it's just as obvious as being the viscosity slowing the bonding of flavours

[ghostrider1971]

Having just had a glance at Chef's "Jeremy Kyle's favourite social networking site" page - the word seems to be the "new" range are going to be "super concentrated" - like use at 1-2% - could be good

[Lee]

They will all be mixed at 70pg/30vg
Hopefully the pg will bring out the flavour

Real flavours look like they recommend 8% to 12% mix ration on a lot of their flavours
www.realflavors.com/product-category/beverage/

[beedee]

I have RF Baklava @ 10% - the tester I made was great but the 30 ml I made up is yet to mature (made about 2 weeks ago), so looks like the VG flavours might need a bit longer to steep than a normal PG one shot.

Looks like you'll be finding out big time with all of these RF flavours to try!!

I am resisting the temptation to get over there and buy lots, too!

[Lee]

Steeping time aint a concern for me, I have 400ml of other flavour steeping
I just need my last kitchen ban to be forgotten about from when I mixed that lot

[jtc]

Trouble is as Perpetua says, no matter how long you steep a weak flavour for it won't get better.
Pg or vg, the strength /percentage of flavouring has to be in the carrier from the start

[Lee]

Had the Lemon Meringue steeping for a month on a 20% mix
Its weak to say the very least
I might have to try upping it to 30% and see if that helps

Not impressed with the flavour of any that I have tried so far. Very faint taste

[kreed]

They haven't received any favourable reviews at all really......... and unless you have a PG intolerance they're not worth it.

Not only are they weak, they need an incredibly long steep AND they don't play well with any normal PG concs you may add to them for a recipe.

They do a great job of muting the normal concs.

So yeah.....not a good word to say about them really I'm afraid

[Perpetua]

Jun 28, 2017 12:36:22 GMT Lee said:

Not impressed with the flavour of any that I have tried so far. Very faint taste

Sorry you've been so disappointed Lee. I can't find anything good to say about the flavours I tried . . . . Chefs very kindly sent me a ' freebie ' Coconut Cream Pie. So I thought I will try this one, added enough norty strength nic base to the neat concentrate, to take me to 12mg - gave it plenty of steeping time and it was still like vaping not very nice plain VG.

One of the few concentrates I gave up on and sinked.

Jun 28, 2017 13:35:11 GMT kreed said:

They haven't received any favourable reviews at all really......... and unless you have a PG intolerance they're not worth it.

Even with a PG intolerance I still wouldn't use them again! Better to try some of the ' super ' strength concentrates where you can keep the PG ratio to a minimum . . . . . or if you really are that sensitive, I'd suggest trying some of the Botanic Elixir's which I've read quite favorable comments about:

vapourdepot.com/product-category/concentrates/brands/botanic-elixir/