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Post by alanfinal on Sept 14, 2012 23:01:34 GMT
We have all heard it said,the youth of today etc,but I don't know if its me or not,I find working in a college,that more and more students take the time to say hello,good morning,introduce themselves and shake your hand,I enjoy working with the youth of today,I also find this with my car meets,the worlds not all doom and gloom,what a great generation we have growing up today.
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Post by judgey on Sept 15, 2012 0:12:21 GMT
They still little shits round my way lol
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Post by alanfinal on Sept 15, 2012 0:29:34 GMT
Haha there have always been little shits,but in general I just find myself caught out a good few times by students saying hello to me,after two spells at this college over 30 years,great to see them back this week though,yep there will be plenty of cones and traffic signs to clear up and a few that cant handle their drink (live in college),but in general there always a great crowd that you miss come the summer holidays
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Post by Skwoddy on Sept 15, 2012 5:06:19 GMT
They still little shits round my way lol Merseyside - Nuff said Although our little shits are shittier = Manchester!! I actually work in Liverpool, better class of little shit there.
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Post by Pacer on Sept 15, 2012 9:20:33 GMT
Sadly I think we have made a very greedy and selfish world.
I see no youngsters’ willing to hold a shop door open for me, but plenty of middle aged people will stand and wait, holding a door open until I enter the shop. In fact people will actually push past me to take advantage of an open door.
I see no youngsters’ clearing a path of me as I hobble around the town on my stick, but again plenty of the older generation will gladly move aside and wait for me to pass.
Whereas youngsters’ seem to get a buzz out of how close they can get to me on there bikes or skateboards.
I see kids as young a 4 walking past my bungalow each day on there way to school with I-pods in there ears mobile phones in hand. When I was a child I was very lucky and grateful if I even got a chocolate bar once a week.
The word patience and respect seems to have disappeared from out schools, only in my opinion. Sadly I think we live in a drink and drug fuelled world, where some kids are easily led, or pressured to try and keep up with there so called friends.
In the UK if you don’t want to work then you don’t have to as the state will pay you to stay at home with your plasma TV and leather sofa, all the luxuries some of the working classes can’t even afford.
I see the vast change in the generation gap and there altitude to work for what you want. Although, I do believe the government is now trying to address this.
I would NOT like to group all youngsters’ in the same category as I think that would be very unfair but I do see a changes.
Sorry about the very short rant. I know I’m going to get some stick for this post. So it’s only my opinion peeps.
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Post by debs40 on Sept 15, 2012 10:04:20 GMT
It's great to hear your post alan, cos my 17yr old daughter gets really cross when she hears all the negative press about the youth of today. She is so totally opposite to widely held perceptions of them, and hates being tarred with the same brush. In the last week she has 1) crossed the road to help an old lady who couldn't lift her zimmer frame up on to the pavement, 2) zipped across the car park in Wickes, to help a guy who was having problems putting timber in his car and stopping his trolley from running away at the same time, and 3) after seeing a lady in a wheelchair struggling to get food out of the freezer in a supermarket, got the said item for her, and then walked the rest of the way around the section with her to get the other items she needed....... Christ, that probably sounds really smug, doesn't it? Didn't mean it to, was just illustrating alans point lol We will always have little sh**s in society, but we have just as many ignorant adult ones too > My son and daughter always hold doors open for people, and it's very rare that anyone will thank you these days, and it incenses my daughter,in particular, when that happens. After all, what does it take to just say thanks if someone holds a door open for you, or moves out of your way??? Now, if only I could get her to keep her bedroom tidy......
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Post by Globalbloke (Tim) on Sept 15, 2012 10:13:32 GMT
Sadly I think we have made a very greedy and selfish world. I see no youngsters’ willing to hold a shop door open for me, but plenty of middle aged people will stand and wait, holding a door open until I enter the shop. In fact people will actually push past me to take advantage of an open door. I see no youngsters’ clearing a path of me as I hobble around the town on my stick, but again plenty of the older generation will gladly move aside and wait for me to pass. Whereas youngsters’ seem to get a buzz out of how close they can get to me on there bikes or skateboards. I see kids as young a 4 walking past my bungalow each day on there way to school with I-pods in there ears mobile phones in hand. When I was a child I was very lucky and grateful if I even got a chocolate bar once a week. The word patience and respect seems to have disappeared from out schools, only in my opinion. Sadly I think we live in a drink and drug fueled world, where some kids are easily led, or pressured to try and keep up with there so called friends. In the UK if you don’t want to work then you don’t have to as the state will pay you to stay at home with your plasma TV and leather sofa, all the luxuries some of the working classes can’t even afford. I see the vast change in the generation gap and there altitude to work for what you want. Although, I do believe the government is now trying to address this. I would NOT like to group all youngsters’ in the same category as I think that would be very unfair but I do see a changes. Sorry about the very short rant. I know I’m going to get some stick for this post. So it’s only my opinion peeps. I wont give you any stick, I think it really depends where you are in the country to be honest. I used to live in Ipswich, then Northolt (London) and now Romsey, my mother still lives in Ipswich and it shocks me when I go back and visit, I'm only 37 but even I'm shocked by the way the "youth" behave (christ, that makes me sound old). In North London there was a community spirit even though where we lived was quite rough, everyone looked out for everyone else and stuck together. Move forward to where I live now, it's an amazing place and the children are very well behaved (for the most part, there are always bad eggs where ever you live). All the drivers wave to say thank you if you need to pull in to let them past and everyone smiles and says morning to you. So I surmise that it really does depend on where you live, I know I have brought my children up to respect the things they have, to respect their community and have an understanding of the pitfalls in life, if I didn't I wouldn't be doing my job as a parent. I wouldn't blame the kids nowadays, I would blame crap parenting, parents are not strict enough and they do not bother to teach their children right and wrong, they let their mates drag them up and then wonder what went wrong (huge generalisation there but hopefully you will get what I mean)......
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Post by debs40 on Sept 15, 2012 10:29:28 GMT
I only saw your post after I had posted mine Pacer, so some parts overlap what you said. You're right that a lot of youngsters have no respect for the older generation, and will go out of their way to intimidate them etc, but there are good kids out there too. I guess it really is all to do with how we raise our children, because my kids automatically do what you are saying others don't...move aside for you to pass, open a door for you, hold it open for you to get through etc. I remember that when my son was 7, he held a door to a shop open for an elderly lady, and she said to him "what a little gentleman you are".... it made me feel really proud of him, that he'd done it of his own accord, and he remembers it too, even 14 yrs later lol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2012 13:15:08 GMT
Hmm I agree with a lot of things that have been said , now I'll throw a little kitten in amongst the pigeons With my job I work in a lot of schools that have children of differing ages . The thing that always seems to come to the fore is that kids / youths in RC schools seem to show a lot more respect and are more polite than their counterparts in CE schools. Now I'm not a religious person and never have been , so what puzzles me is why there is an apparent difference assuming that the cirriculum is the same in all schools and the standard of teaching / teachers ought to be the same ?
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Post by Karma on Sept 15, 2012 13:42:53 GMT
Is it perhaps the that RC schools are smaller? They are around here!
In smaller schools children tend to get more attention and if there are any problems they tend to get sorted a lot quicker!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2012 13:59:50 GMT
No not really Karma , there aren't that many small schools , most are very large
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Post by Karma on Sept 15, 2012 14:03:50 GMT
All the RC schools are here are very small, in fact our local one is being threatned with closure due to lack of pupils
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Post by fagin on Sept 15, 2012 19:37:36 GMT
Depends on the parents. My son (going on 17) is a nice kid. Obviously.
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Post by Karma on Sept 15, 2012 19:43:01 GMT
Depends on the parents. My son (going on 17) is a nice kid. Obviously. Yes, nodding in agreement I was about to post about problems families can have and disadvantages, then I realised my kids were brought up with family problems and disadvantages. it has never stopped them being polite though
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Post by matty198111 on Sept 15, 2012 19:47:59 GMT
Depends on the parents. My son (going on 17) is a nice kid. Obviously. Not always though A family a few doors up from me well the parents are arrogant ignorant filthy drug addicts But all 5 of the kids are brilliant They help missus carry shopping from the car Take the bins up the stairs so missus dont struggle and it hurts my achilies tendon as i broke it earlier in the year. They always look out for my kids and fixthe bikes when needed, and will always stop to say hi They are between 4 and 17 year old Mat
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