hifistud
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Post by hifistud on Oct 6, 2012 12:28:10 GMT
let me echo what has been already said - the last thing we want is e-cigs being classed as NRT - unless, of course, you want to see them being taken off the market for five years while all the clinical trials are undertaken.
Plus, I don't have a disease - I have made a lifestyle choice to use nicotine. Seriously, folks referring to e-cigs as quit aids can end up in them being efefectively banned.
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Post by moonraker on Oct 6, 2012 12:42:35 GMT
I think its right what HIFISTUD has said, all the testing that would have to be done, then the goverment will want duty . I would be so sad if they were removed from the market as E cigs have been the only way I have quit smoking for longer than a week. has been 10 weeks now & I cant see me ever going back to smoking
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Post by lobeydosser on Oct 6, 2012 12:49:22 GMT
Although I have tried, in the past, just about every way there is of stopping smoking, from pills to accupuncture, chewing gum to patches and although I have stopped many times, I have never stayed stopped so anti smoking campaigns, NRT and quit classes are not any use to me.
So whilst I have no problems with those that want to try e-cigs as a way of cutting down, and perhaps, eventually giving up smoking, personally I have no intention of giving up on Nicotine and I view these campaigns as a sort of "Oh we must be seen to be doing something" ploy while raking in taxes hand over fist.
It is thanks to E-cigs and the community that supports them that I have found a way where I can now continue to enjoy my Nicotine without interference from government, doctors and public pressure. I will now be Vaping until I kick the bucket and enjoying it too.
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Post by djs on Oct 22, 2012 17:44:08 GMT
If I had £1 for everyone that asked me if I was on e-cigs because of "stoptober" I'd have enough for an upmarket shiny new kit! The way I see it, most NRTs are a joke. I could do 3/4 of a day on patches, not get any cravings, get home and roll/smoke 4 or 5 in an evening. Also (small rant....) why are the generally accepted NRTs all priced around the cost of analogues? We can vape for a few quid a day, maybe less if the desire to purchase everything in the shop can be contolled. I'm not sure whether long term I'll quit nicotine, but I plan to cut down on the strength and see what happens.
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Post by dizzi on Nov 1, 2012 22:19:39 GMT
Local paper today had an interesting set of numbers regarding Stoptober. Notts has a population slightly in excess of 1 million, as of 2006. 21% of that 1 million smoke (no statistics as to how many ciggies per day/week/year makes a person count as a "smoker" so we have to assume it includes the casual pack per year smoker as well as the 3 packs per day smoker). So let's say a conservative figure of 150 thousand or so pack + per day smokers. A grand total of 243 Notts residents pledged to stop smoking in October. That's under 0.2% of the smoking population. And as we already know even mentored quitters using NRT have a failure rate of over 90%, we can confidently guess that the Stoptober effort in my county at least will be successful for fewer than 0.02% of its pack+ per day smoking residents. Maybe 6 or 7 people out of that 243 will succeed in quitting for good. According to this www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/268000-pledge-to-quit-smoking-for-stoptober-8229016.html Stoptober cost £5.7 million and 268,000 people signed up for it. So £21.27 per quitter. If 5% of them actually quit (unlikely to be more than 2-3% in actuality, but let's be generous) that's 13,400 fewer smokers at a cost of £425.37 each. There are 8 million smokers in the UK, so Stoptober may (at a generous estimate) reduce that number by 0.17% Seems like a waste of time and money to me, when giving everyone who pledged to quit an eGo kit (the £19.99 Stoptober one from E Cig Wizard was a pretty good deal) would have cost less money and had a far higher success rate. Conservative estimate based on some of the ecig research I've read - 69,000 fewer smokers at a cost of £5.36m, or £77.64 per quitter. And that's at retail rates, not wholesale. Edited to add: Hubby and I quit smoking and took up vaping instead on 28th September. The two of us by ourselves represent roughly a third of the smokers in Notts who will actually quit for Stoptober.
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Post by giles on Nov 1, 2012 23:27:13 GMT
Hubby and I quit smoking and took up vaping instead on 28th September. The two of us by ourselves represent roughly a third of the smokers in Notts who will actually quit for Stoptober.
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