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Post by lobeydosser on Oct 29, 2012 1:00:27 GMT
I am posting this in the beginners thread because it is, for me, a beginners type question.
I started out on Skycigs and was quite happy with them, indeed I went 100% onto vaping just using them, albeit topping up the cartos with e-juice. Really the only thing I had against them was their poor battery life. It was because of that alone that I went looking for a better e-cig system and found the Ego-C 1100 battery and bought the kit. This ofcourse introduced me to a wider variety of tanks, clearos etc. I have since added a VV Twist to this system.
Now, all the while I have been reading about other battery systems and other tank/atty systems, all much more expensive than the set up I have and am very happy with. Now I aam reading a thread that would suggest that some members are having trouble finding battery systems that last a reasonable time and it reminds me of why I left the Skycig system behind.
So, my question is, if I spend more than I need to on a LT or a ProVari or the like, just to run a fancy atty or tank system, but have to return to short life batteries, what am I going to gain from going down that road? IE, why do folks go for these other systems?
And, should I just cut my cloth to suit and carry on with what I am using at the moment?
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Post by alvoram on Oct 29, 2012 1:05:07 GMT
Lobey, you honestly dont get a poor battery life on the bigger provaris or LTs, it's just the mini versions, naturally the batteries are smaller in these, so have a shorter life than the bigger variants.
However in answer to your question, it is the controllable vape, for me, being able to set the power to a level I deem best for that combination of atomizer and juice, it just makes it so much better IMO. Then there is the consistency, with many of the ego/riva types out there, as the battery runs out, the power reduces, this isnt the case with most VV's.
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Post by Anne (fuzzy) on Oct 29, 2012 1:10:12 GMT
My 18650's don't last very long now because they're so old and I've charged them too many times, I need new ones. Either that or I'm vaping more than I used to!
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Post by lobeydosser on Oct 29, 2012 1:16:17 GMT
Thanks Alvoram. I'm running 3 Ego-c's and the twist, so I guess I don't notice any battery drop as they rarely get to the flashing blue light stage. In all honesty, I don't think I could tell a good vape from a bad one. I am just so pleased that I can get the satisfaction and my nicotine dose from an e-cig that the world of modifications is beyond my understanding.
As long as I have a clearo or tank with a battery that will last me 6+ hours, I am happy.
I guess, that for me, what I have will do me fine.
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Post by alvoram on Oct 29, 2012 1:26:35 GMT
Lobey Im not sure of the battery drop on the Ego's or twists, it could be that if they are genuine joyetech, the drop is minimal, or none existent, at least I think I may have read that somewhere, maybe someone else could clarify that. But I was using Riva's before my first mod, and have loads of Riva batteries in the house, and it's very noticeable on them, especially after using a VV.
You're spot on with that though, if you're happy, that's all that matters at the end of the day, if it aint broke don't fix it. From what I hear the twist is quite a good VV device anyway, you should have some idea from that if VV is something that is important to you.
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Post by lobeydosser on Oct 29, 2012 1:39:05 GMT
At the moment, I really only use the VV Twist to see if any of my home brew mixes taste any better at a higher voltage. I am still playing about with voltages and mixes, but in reality, I am trying to find mixes that I can use all day on the ego-c's.
I was just asking incase I was missing something as far as the more expensive set ups were concerned, but, I guess for now, I do not think I would appreciate any marked difference over what I already have.
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Post by alvoram on Oct 29, 2012 1:42:10 GMT
I have a friend, who bought a LT, but has decided it is not for him really, as he actually prefers the lower voltages, on a standard res atty, so an ego/riva is plenty for him, even more so when it has run it's charge down a little. He generally vapes on his LT at around 3.2 to 3.3 I believe. Some people just don't need any higher power, it's very much about what makes you happy.
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Post by lobeydosser on Oct 29, 2012 2:08:38 GMT
Thanks Alvoram. It was just really about what I may be missing. There are so many people on here that go on about mods both for tanks etc and about higher voltage power sources, that I was beginning to think I was missing something that was very obvious to others, but that I just did not get. I'm afraid I am the old fashioned type of bloke that prefers working on cars that I can sit on the wing with my feet in the engine bay while I tinker with the carburator. I have a couple of those sorts of cars. So I guess I'll stick with my ego's until they go phutt and then I will take tham apart to see how they work.
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Post by alvoram on Oct 29, 2012 2:15:58 GMT
you may find that at some point in the future you want more and are ready to take the plunge... but do it when you're ready...
Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards
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Post by timnowvapes on Oct 29, 2012 2:21:14 GMT
I remember all the confusion when I started, and whilst my first disposable was coming to an end, I was on the phone to Jason from Vape Escape and asked about the inner workings of it, and said I was looking forward to taking it apart, he asked why I would want to take it apart, I said "for fun" He did point out the dangers of the lithium battery too (oh which I also unwrapped and took apart) It was good as well, as once I'd got it stripped out the tube, that was it, a lot my confusion had gone, plus I have a few interesting bits now and a nice long metal tube
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Post by Chrissie on Oct 29, 2012 9:37:12 GMT
Lobey, as Alvo says, if you are happy with what you have, stick with it My main reason for buying a GGTS a couple of years ago is that it is purely mechanical & virtually unbreakable. The 18650 batteries it takes are cheap & last for yonks - still getting some use out of the 2 that I bought at the same time as the GG, but those 2 are now understandably not lasting that long due to them being charged so many times.
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Post by Sandra (aka Chillax) on Oct 29, 2012 10:21:25 GMT
Lobey, as Alvo says, if you are happy with what you have, stick with it My main reason for buying a GGTS a couple of years ago is that it is purely mechanical & virtually unbreakable. The 18650 batteries it takes are cheap & last for yonks - still getting some use out of the 2 that I bought at the same time as the GG, but those 2 are now understandably not lasting that long due to them being charged so many times. Exactly, if your kit keeps you contented, stick with it, there is no need to buy loads of gear. After all, we vape as an alternative to smoking, getting our nic hit so long as you get you nic delivered in a way that your happy with, that is all that matters. Some of us turn this into a hobby, like different shapes and sizes and playing with wick and wire. Tbh I don't spend much anymore compared to what I was spending. One of my best kits was the Janty Puromizer kit, loved it, I had the automatic battery with mine, I can remember writing about how fantastic it was on here last feb, but *sigh* when the puromizers that came with the kit conked out, I ordered more, they were terrible, really awful, bout a couple more and they were just as bad, pity as I loved the original ones and would still be on them now but at a tenner an atty I won't be wasting anymore money.
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Post by lobeydosser on Oct 29, 2012 11:11:11 GMT
I suppose if the only motoring program I ever watched was Top Gear, I would feel very inadequate driving around in my Scenic Diesel and living "out in the sticks" and not in town where I am likely to come across other people vaping, I do wonder from time to time if the world is passing me by on the type of e-cig I use. So I was pleasantly surprised the other day when the Meter Man called and he was using a Riva. It was nice to see someone using "my type of e-cig". Hobby wise, I am walking (maybe crawling would be a better description) the mixing route and there I do see direct benefits for me of buying good kit and spending a bit of money and if I can replicate e-juices I like and then tweak them more to my tastes to suit the equipment I use, then so much the better. I guess the Ferraris and the ProVaris will just need to stay in the shop windows for a while yet. Thanks everone for your contributions. I am feeling a lot better now about my choices of e-cigs.
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Post by dave on Oct 29, 2012 14:25:01 GMT
I'd just add one point to what has already been said lobey - really just a variation on what Chrissie said. Riva/ eGo type batteries are fine - I've got loads of stuff but I still use them some of the time. The only problem with them is that they can just pack up, they may last six months, they may last a year or more. It is possible to repair them if you can solder in a replacement electronics part and find a replacement battery that fits - it is a fiddly job though!
I decided early in my vaping life to get a mechanical battery mod - there are loads of different ones and you can always pick one up like I did via the classies. You need to get a couple of batteries and a charger to go with it of course. You then have something that will last pretty much for ever (accidents excepted!) and be 100% reliable (as long as you keep the contacts clean etc.). The batteries can be re-charged 100's of times. I'm not talking about VV here - it will perform just like a Riva/ eGo. I just liked the idea of having something I could totally depend on, with no electronics that can go wrong.
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Post by lobeydosser on Oct 29, 2012 15:06:15 GMT
I do understand what you are saying Dave and it is not really a cost thing with me, afterall I have saved enough for 10 gold plated ProVaris so far by not buying fags, but having invested in 3 ego's and a twist, I will get my moneys worth from them before I move on to a mechanical battery mod. Perhaps by that time, I will have worked my way through the excitement of making my own e-juice and be looking for something else to get my teeth into. Something where I would benefit from a power source that would give me voltage and resistance.
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