Yoyo sale is back at TW

[hissie]

Wotsit, you will notice a saving once your fully up & running. The initial start up costs can be quite off putting.


Can't see it going to 99%, but you never know

[hissie]

Feb 11, 2011 11:34:05 GMT buckowski said:

But his sales are the best in the UK. And as a businessman, it's easy to see why he's the biggest vendor in the UK. He leaves the rest standing.

matter of opinion me thinks bucko.

[ckc]

I'm glad that Jason is joining in the US fight.....all vendors should.If they don't join now each vendor will end up fighting the FDA on their own....i can't quite believe that they haven't set up a similar trade group to ECITA there.Cheers Lilac.

[mrlimbo]

Feb 11, 2011 11:49:50 GMT hissie said:

Feb 11, 2011 11:34:05 GMT buckowski said:

But his sales are the best in the UK. And as a businessman, it's easy to see why he's the biggest vendor in the UK. He leaves the rest standing.

matter of opinion me thinks bucko.

Yes Sales like these always makes me think a business is in trouble ? but thats just me

[Perpetua]

Agree completely with Jerry that it's good that TW is joining the fight with the FDA . . . is JC a member of ECITA? I didn't think he was, preferring to do his own thing, although now his business is being directly affected . . . .

[buckowski]

Feb 11, 2011 12:31:48 GMT mrlimbo said:

Feb 11, 2011 11:49:50 GMT hissie said:

matter of opinion me thinks bucko.

Yes Sales like these always makes me think a business is in trouble ? but thats just me

I think the opposite.

Take the sales of the tank atties alone, they sold 3000 in the 1st fortnight, at a large profit margin considering they buy that many in one go, probs getting em for 3 quid each. Big money turnover.

Then, sales drop off, no one needs any for a few weeks/months...
So, have a sale day, sells another 1500 in 2 days alone, at a smaller profit. Not as big money turnover, but still a turnover.

And all the time, lessening sales of their competitors.

Behind the ridiculous devil alter-ego, he's a clever and probably ruthless businessman.

[buckowski]

Feb 11, 2011 11:49:50 GMT hissie said:

Feb 11, 2011 11:34:05 GMT buckowski said:

But his sales are the best in the UK. And as a businessman, it's easy to see why he's the biggest vendor in the UK. He leaves the rest standing.

matter of opinion me thinks bucko.

It sure is Hissie.

I'll bet there are loads like me though, who've stocked up when sales have been on at TECC/TW.
Had Tornado batts at £3 each, Tornado mega batts at £4 each, juice at £8 a bottle, atties at £2.50 each, tank atties at £7 each.
No other vendor can compete with this.
Not saying it's right, but that's business for ya.

[Lilac]

He did mention on Twitter that the LR tanks are being made, 7000 ordered....

[Perpetua]

Feb 11, 2011 13:14:08 GMT buckowski said:

Behind the ridiculous devil alter-ego, he's a clever and probably ruthless businessman.

Completely agree Buck, he's extremely shrewd, a man with vision . . who'll use any business trick available to him . . . whether you agree with them or not, that's immaterial as he's looking out for his own interests.

Toby is also going to be stocking Janty LR Tank atties as well Lilac . . . although not for a while as he's waiting for the Chinese NY to be over and deliveries to get back to normal.

[ian]

Cant wait for the illusive LR to be launched.Will be stocking up on them for sure.Surely it will need a differently designed tank cart though ???Without it,i can see major problems.Juice wont wick fast enough,burnt taste and burnt out attys In saying that,they should be cheaper than the standard tank attys??

[ken]

Feb 11, 2011 13:14:08 GMT buckowski said:

Feb 11, 2011 12:31:48 GMT mrlimbo said:

Yes Sales like these always makes me think a business is in trouble ? but thats just me

I think the opposite.

Take the sales of the tank atties alone, they sold 3000 in the 1st fortnight, at a large profit margin considering they buy that many in one go, probs getting em for 3 quid each. Big money turnover.

Then, sales drop off, no one needs any for a few weeks/months...
So, have a sale day, sells another 1500 in 2 days alone, at a smaller profit. Not as big money turnover, but still a turnover.

And all the time, lessening sales of their competitors.

Behind the ridiculous devil alter-ego, he's a clever and probably ruthless businessman.

I agree with Bucko that JC is a good business man who leaves the other vendors standing.

It works for him and more power to him I say.

Lets face it he can't lose as even if he has a sale he is in profit.

Don't ask me how I know as I won't tell but if you are buying this stuff in quantity from China there is 300% profit in the stuff so if you have a sale you can afford to half your price and make a profit.

So the vendors that don't have sales in the long run are the losers.

He keeps good quality stuff and I say this from experience as anything I have bought from TW has lasted.
I have bought absolute crap clones and juices from another supplier that have been a waste of money and it really pisses me off that some still recommend them.
Bye the way James in Paradise vapes is not on my list of crap vendors and I still will recommend his juices.

Rant over but its an honest rant.

Ken.

[Perpetua]

That applies to any consumables purchased in great bulk from China really Kenny, when you think about . . . how can the likes of Primark sell for what they do and still make a profit . . . JC's talent lies in his business acumen . . . in having the vision and stealing a march on his smaller competitor's.

JC's likes to deal in big numbers, albeit at a smaller profit margin at sale time . . . the 'sole traders' rely very much upon the personal service they give to ensure continued consumer loyalty or not, if you've had an unhappy experience with them . . . then there's the specialist more niche end of the market.

Ecigs are no different to anything else we buy from any other company or individual business in my wee opinion.

[hissie]

He can have huge sales because he owns a large company. That isn't always what a customer wants. I prefer good customer service & would prefer to pay that bit extra if the service received is top notch.

Sports Direct is a prime example. Constantly has great sales, but the customer service is very poor & after only one experience I won't entertain this company. I would rather pay extra or not buy at all rather than shop @ Sports Direct.

Also, he's involving himself in the fight because it's totally worth his while nothing more.

[buckowski]

Feb 11, 2011 16:14:40 GMT hissie said:

Also, he's involving himself in the fight because it's totally worth his while nothing more.

I totally agree.

And I'm very happy he's doing so.

He's opinionated, seems well advised legally, and muchos egotistical. Exactly the qualities you need when trying to reason with the plebs who are trying to ban the industry.

[ken]

Feb 11, 2011 16:14:40 GMT hissie said:

He can have huge sales because he owns a large company. That isn't always what a customer wants. I prefer good customer service & would prefer to pay that bit extra if the service received is top notch.

Sports Direct is a prime example. Constantly has great sales, but the customer service is very poor & after only one experience I won't entertain this company. I would rather pay extra or not buy at all rather than shop @ Sports Direct.

Also, he's involving himself in the fight because it's totally worth his while nothing more.

I always have had good service from TW Hissie and Jason did not always have a big company and used to sell on Ebay just like other vendors.