£8 for DID GENESIS ATTY, OKAY PRICE?

[robby]

I`d be interested what you guys think as far as flavour goes with a SS wick.

[blakey]

I think you nailed it earlier macca when were saying about larger wick area allowing more juice to be burned, I believe that to be the case with the DiD. The extra fat wick does allow for a much more even burn. It truly is a great vape though and with a noticeable difference to thinner wicked attie.

[Frogster (The Alchemist)]

Well, I am not going to prolong this, I was merely offering my comparison on the two atties… I think I have said all there is to say, and enough to let people make their own judgment calls.

But, I will say just one more thing…. If an AGA-T is supposed to be as good as a DID why (and this is a few points I have found so far) do people who have purchased AGA-T’s have to:-

Grind down the misaligned top cap, to make the air hole line up.
Replace the centre post configuration with acceptable materials and bodge a fix
Drill out the air hole to improve vapour and flavour production to the same as a DID
Replace the tank material due to substandard materials causing cracking
Drill out a larger wick hole
Etc, Etc, Etc …

Not to mention the issues of quality of workmanship, materials, etc, that even a Blind person wearing 3 pairs of gloves and sun glasses could notice.

All to TRY and make it work like a DID works, when a DID works straight away out of the box.

But as I have said before…. Each to their own, at least people are a little more informed to be able to make their choice.

[robby]

Well from my point of view, as a guy who is pretty happy with the Vivi Nova as opposed to anything I tried before, this has been really interesting. I have ordered the £8 DID and will be really interested to see how it goes. I know it`s a cheapy for a DID but it should give me a good grounding in these types of atomisers. For me it is all about flavour and CONSISTENT vapour production, not necessarily clouds of the stuff. FLAVOUR is the most important thing for me and really looking forward to vaping off an ss wick for the first time. Thanks for all your inputs

[maccafan]

I am not disputing that the build quality of the DID is far superior to the AGA-T..At four times the price it ought to be. But is it 4 times better built. I think not. I am also not disputing that it works better for you.

The center post is not a bodge..There is no difference to the chrome plated brass center post to a gazillion other clearos in the market..It's all in the mind and rumours stirred up by modders to protect their investment. There is no evidence that a chrome plated clearo actually does all the things that the rumour mill keeps alive. It just create doubts in peoples minds that's all.

Anyway, I am merely talking about the vape in my previous post. The DID also comes with an optional 1mm airhole cap..It's down to personal preference and I was theorizing that your personal preference may be the 1.2 mm airhole and that's why you are finding the difference..I have seen people post that the DID airhole did not line up either and Jim replaced it for them. I can tighten down the caps on one of AGA-T I have to get the hole to line up. Someone with a weak wrist or arthritic fingers won't be able to I am sure of that. So a screw thread arrangement for the top cap ain't the best.

My point is that the AGA-T or any other is a budget genesis atomizer can be setup with minor modifications to vape exactly like any other genesis atomizer..It's a given than those who use genesis style atomizers do a bit of DIY. If you make a not properly wicking mesh wick on the DID it'll taste burnt, the same as any other genny.

The iphone works straight out of box for those who know nothing about smartphones and you pay a premium for it. People who like to tinker buy an android. It's again down to personal preference.

[robby]

Can you tell me why the 1mm hole and the 1.2mm holes are an option, is it purely for vapour production?

[Frogster (The Alchemist)]

Macca, we evidently have different views, and like grownups, we will have to agree to differ… my perception of “quality of vape”, obviously differs from yours… That’s what life is all about…

[vapee]

I think the ability to change air holes is also to make the draw tighter or more airy

[robby]

Nov 28, 2012 10:38:44 GMT vapee said:

I think the ability to change air holes is also to make the draw tighter or more airy

Thanks for that, understandable option, Novas are just too free with the air input.

[vapee]

yea I think they played around with the air holes in the different versions, if u cover one up with a a finger u can test it with less air tho and if its good just cover it up with blue tack or something

[greendollar]

Hi,

my view for what it's worth (not alot I know)

All these atomisers work on the same principal with just a few minor differences , mainly to do with asthetics , they all function in the same way in that you heat a coil producing vapour .
The exact same wicking material & wire is used in whatever atomiser you're using , in theory it shouldn't matter what device you're using wether it's a £70 DID or a £15 AGA-T , they are both doing the exact same job , using the same materials using the same battery power . The atomisers are almost identical in their function and any difference to vapour production must surely be so minimal that it would be hard to tell the difference .

I haven't got around to purchasing a high end atomiser yet so this is a very onsided view , unless someone would like to lend me their Foggatti/Spheriod/Kayfun for month ? I'll look after it , promise

[robby]

Nov 28, 2012 10:47:21 GMT greendollar said:

Hi,

my view for what it's worth (not alot I know)

All these atomisers work on the same principal with just a few minor differences , mainly to do with asthetics , they all function in the same way in that you heat a coil producing vapour .
The exact same wicking material & wire is used in whatever atomiser you're using , in theory it shouldn't matter what device you're using wether it's a £70 DID or a £15 AGA-T , they are both doing the exact same job , using the same materials using the same battery power . The atomisers are almost identical in their function and any difference to vapour production must surely be so minimal that it would be hard to tell the difference .

I haven't got around to purchasing a high end atomiser yet so this is a very onsided view , unless someone would like to lend me their Foggatti/Spheriod/Kayfun for month ? I'll look after it , promise

I am with you in your way of thinking. I now have a power source that has the ability to give a consistent amout of energy to heat the coil. So that is one of the variables dealt with. The reason I am going for the DID is because they have a Stainless Steel wick. I am now looking to improve on that side of vaping. I think that the DID will give me that with the SS wick. I am also a member of TINKERERS ANONYMOUS lol so I just cant help meddlin lolol. I should add though that I have 35 years experience of electro mechanical devices. I am a photocopier/printer field engineer so I do know most of the theory of these things.

[maccafan]

Nov 28, 2012 10:37:25 GMT Frogster (The Alchemist) said:

Macca, we evidently have different views, and like grownups, we will have to agree to differ… my perception of “quality of vape”, obviously differs from yours… That’s what life is all about…

Perception is reality for each individual Frogster..It's just the perception differs..

Variety is the spice of life and all that rot..

I am not disagreeing with you in many things really.. Just that any genesis atty can be setup to vape like any other that's all..

Nov 28, 2012 10:31:26 GMT robby said:

Can you tell me why the 1mm hole and the 1.2mm holes are an option, is it purely for vapour production?

In addition to a looser draw it will draw more air into the chamber resulting in more juice being burnt provided your wick is wicking well..So will lead to more flavour in many cases..

[Frogster (The Alchemist)]

Robby,

What you have purchased is a "Genesis Clone".

"DID" is a trade name, like "Coke", although many people who drink "Cola" call it "Coke", it is not..... same thing.

[robby]

It`s clear that the perfect vaping experience is different for everyone. But that is no different from the ciggies, hence hundreds of different brands and we all had one favourite basically.