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Post by Perpetua on Apr 4, 2011 19:46:20 GMT
We need Ian here really And . . . but I believe the Provari gives you a reading of the omhs your atomiser is performing at.
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Post by hissie on Apr 4, 2011 22:06:29 GMT
Less to go wrong with GGTB.
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Post by ian on Apr 5, 2011 8:44:45 GMT
Provari checks the ohms of your atty and checks your remaining battery life.It will also reject a bad atty.If you have an atty with problems the Provari will not fire until you change the atty.I havent had it happen to me yet.Hissie,ive had no problems with the Provari at all,its been in constant use since i got it, and its the best e-cig ive ever used.Dont forget that you have one AW IMR high drain 18650 battery,you can change the voltage from 3.3-6v in seconds.If you have the spare money get a Provari i would say.You get a years guarantee anyway,dont get that with many other e-cigs.Also you have from 3.3-6v to play with on the one battery,instead of various different batterys you need in the GGs to achieve different voltages.In the long run the Provari works out cheaper without the need to stack batterys.
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Post by shamreez on Apr 5, 2011 8:59:59 GMT
Completely different question here... Have any of you used the darwin..
I was just reading a little about it and there was a mention that darwin reads the resistance of the atty and increase or decrease current to make it vape at the setting you have decided
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Post by ian on Apr 5, 2011 9:51:36 GMT
You do this with the Provari to.For example,if a cartomiser reads 1.5ohms i would vape it at 3.3v-3.7v but no higher.If the reading was 2.4-3ohms i could push the voltage alot higher.Anything 3ohms plus is giving me from 3.3-6v.So i simply use anything 3ohm plus on the Provari to get all of the voltages.And,you do not have to only direct drip the atty on the Provari??Use whatever method you like to vape,e.g attys,cartos,clearos.
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Post by shamreez on Apr 5, 2011 9:55:10 GMT
Yeah I knew about this in provari. But what I read about darwin is that the unit is intelligent enough to find this out and increase or decrease voltage without any interference from the user.
I am not sure if this is true though..
Will have to get someone who uses Darwin in this site to get the details......
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Post by ian on Apr 5, 2011 11:42:51 GMT
Oh i see.Only person i can think of who has one for sure is Dave(Hi-fi stud)on UKV Maybe worth asking him about how the Darwin performs and its features.
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Post by imeothanasis on Apr 5, 2011 12:17:40 GMT
Ian, we cant compare GGTB with provari, they have a totally different filosophy. GGTB was made to last for ever, its user friendly, repairable even from a housewife, and its an inexpensive device. You will never spend with GGTB what you have spend for provari. GGTB costs 50 euros and provari 170 (dollars but if it was in Europe it would cost 170 euros but anyway, lets forget that). Also think that GGTB has a lifetime waranty when provari has 1 year waranty. That means something. It means that after 1 year noones can waranty anything about it. So GGTB is for now and in a long term will still be too much cheaper than provari. Also dont forget that batteriers that are forced to produce 6 volts when they are made only for 3,7 volts will die too quickly. As I said before, we cant compare a 170 dollars unit with a 50 euros unit. But even if we still want to compare them, the main thing that you can do with provari is the ability to change voltage without changing batteries. I dont say that provari is not a good device, just the opossite. I just say that its not made to last, thats all. Its a marketing device. If someone wants to compare cigs then he can compare GGTS/UFS combo with other cigs. Of course I will soon make the VV GGTS but for now GGTS/UFS is more than enough to stand in any comparison. Ian, I am not argue with you of course, I just disagree in a polite matter. If I am not as polite as I wanted to be its because I cant express myself in the right way in english.
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Post by ian on Apr 5, 2011 13:32:23 GMT
I look forward to seeing the GGTS version of VV mate.If you offer the same lifetime guarantee then i will be getting one for sure.I was not comparing GGTB to Provari,was replying to Hissie saying GGTB has less to go wrong.I see the bigger picture with the Provari,only down side is that if a repair was needed it will need to be posted back to the USA,which is a big concern i have.I think that as long as the user uses it correctly, with AW IMR high drain batteries, and doesnt do anything stupid(Try and boost an LR atty to higher than 3.7v)Which has been done,then all will be fine.I have had no problems at all and i love how the Provari works and how well made the unit is.I have however purchased a backup VV mod incase i hit problems in the future.Nothing is guaranteed to last forever and anything can break,but a years guarantee is alot better than most suppliers provide,and shows what confidence Provape have in the unit. I did not realise you provided a lifetime guarantee,if thats the case then a GGTS VV mod would be a mod that me and many others would snap up without hesitation.No offence taken at all mate,will be looking out for your VV option.Any idea when it will be hitting production?For now i am more than happy with my Provari,best e-cig i have ever used and i have used many
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Post by AndnAnge on Apr 5, 2011 18:26:47 GMT
Well I have to admit I enjoyed reading your discussions and have learnt something from each of you, forums are great and thanks for both your valuable experiences. Is there a site for this GG? I have looked at the Provari and must admit it does look good,(I like the atty checking idea) but imeothanasis puts up a good argument for the GG, but I would like to look at it. a lifetime guarantee is only as good as the companies existence, Not knocking it but facts are facts. Again to give it can prove confidence it the product too. Again many thanks for a very intelligent discussion.
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Post by Chrissie on Apr 5, 2011 19:22:24 GMT
Ian & And, I'm not sure that Imeo would b able to do a life time guarantee on a VV version of the GG - far too many electrical/circuit type things that could fail IMHO. I may be wrong, but I think he was just referring to the guarantee on the current 100% mechanical GG's. I just can' quite imagine any type of VV surviving a drop down a flight of concrete stairs in the same way one of my GG's did - but again, I could be wrong Link to the GG sub-forum on ECF : - www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/Link to a website dedicated to the GG www.ggecig.com/
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Post by AndnAnge on Apr 5, 2011 19:29:08 GMT
Thanks for the links Chrissie and input Just a quick one, imeothanasis mentioned battery drain due to over powering this does seem quite a good point but in your experience with the Provari is it fact, will it/can it kill the batteries?
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Post by ian on Apr 5, 2011 19:37:43 GMT
I thought that Chrissie.lol,i know that the GGs are held in very high regard,if you could get a GG VV with a lifetime guarantee i would trade in my Provari. I will keep my eyes open for this development of the GG VV,i love these VV mods now,really hit the spot nicely.
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Post by Chrissie on Apr 5, 2011 19:39:01 GMT
YW And Honestly, I've got nothing against the Provari. It looks amazing - do just worry that a lot could go wrong with it though.
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Post by Chrissie on Apr 5, 2011 19:42:19 GMT
Oops, sorry Ian, I crossed posts Lol, I think I feel the same about my GG's as you do about your Provari
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